Hereford drivers warned ahead of police partnership project

3:39pm Monday 11th March 2013 in News

CONCERNED residents hope that new anti-speeding measures will slow traffic on Old School Lane in Hereford.

Reports of speeding sparked an investigation by West Mercia Police’s Safer Roads Partnership that revealed “a significant speed compliance problem”.
 

Six out of 10 drivers exceeded the speed limit on the 30mph road running from the Blind College to Roman Road, with 15% driving at over 38 miles per hour.
 

Police are now launching a mobile speed enforcement site to clock drivers’ speeds for at least six months, and will continue collecting data over that period.
 

Safer Roads Partnership spokesman Anna Higgins said: “Old School Lane covers both residential areas and industrial units and local residents were understandably concerned about the excessive speed of some drivers.”

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bobby47 says...
4:48pm Mon 11 Mar 13

Why do we continue to have a Safer Roads Partnership?
It's yet another Partnership that creates pointless jobs, pointless meetings and huge waste.
We don't need a Safer Road Partnership and someone should grasp this stinging nettle and rid us of this gimmick that only provides a safe haven for pointless words, gimmicks and spin.
The only partner in all of this dressed up dross, that actually serves a purpose and can do something is the Police.
They are the ones who can enforce, they are the ones who have all the data, they are the ones who manage accident statistics and they do not need the Council to guide and help them in anyway.
We've gotta rid ourselves of this failed model of road safety and trim the tree.
The Council have got themselves into so many areas of business that they have lost sight of what they are there for.
The Council have got to stop riding on the back of the Police and pretend they are a great contributor toward road safety.
Leave this to the Police!

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Ubique5740 says...
5:47pm Mon 11 Mar 13

Bobby, cannot agree more , it's another quango which spreads the blame for situations which in the main only the police can solve.
I was surprised recently (not during halfterm ) when I saw the Speed enforcement van parked in the lay by in Homer Rd near to the HT office on three mornings , due to the amount of traffic going into town only a pedal cyclist could be caught going over the speed limit. Just seemed a waste of resources again.

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Themightyboosh says...
7:41pm Mon 11 Mar 13

it amazes me anyone can break the speed limit just above the blind collage
because the road surface is so bad.
if i did manage to hit 30 up there i would probably shake a kidney out my ear.

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Themightyboosh says...
7:43pm Mon 11 Mar 13

and just out of interest how many accidents have there been along there?

i cant recall any.

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FormerStudent says...
7:57pm Mon 11 Mar 13

Mightyboosh surely you're missing the point? the number of accidents is irrelevant. The speed limit is 30mph. Nothing more.

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Themightyboosh says...
6:18am Tue 12 Mar 13

no i fully agree about the speed limit
its just that i was under the impression that speed cameras were supposed to be for accident black spots.
or i could have hallucinated that fact.
the council is coming out with so much general madness on a regular basis im not shure whats real any more.

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mizza21 says...
9:56am Tue 12 Mar 13

I suppose if I lived there and saw people constantly driving at 40 or so I'd be annoyed too, there is a need for the police to do something about it, possibly with the council chucking up a sign or two.

FormerStudent the service calls itself the Safer Roads Partnership. A better name would be the Traffic Offence Revenue Scheme, it has nowt to do with making the roads safer.
Do you apply the same absolute attitude to all of the UK's laws?

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Moreteavicar? says...
12:36pm Tue 12 Mar 13

It's all done with smoke and mirrors!

The reason we had a speed - sorry - SAFETY camera at the bottom of Aylestone Hill was because the stretch of road calculating the number of "incidents", extended all the way up to Commercial Cross ............

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bobby47 says...
12:53pm Tue 12 Mar 13

Mizza is of course right. This little quango is entirely about collecting revenue.
Sometimes, in my more lucid moments, I do question our approach to road safety. Is the problem excessive speed or is it something else, some other factor that brings about this carnage on our roads?
For example, it could well be that the busier you are whilst driving, the safer you and others are likely to be.
I mean, if you examine statistics relating to this issue, only one accident has been recorded that was the result of excessive speed, talking on your mobile, eating a kebab and hand feeding a pet ferret that was secreted within a small waste coat pocket.
Not one single accident was caused because of excessive speed, talking on your mobile, eating a custard slice, and restraining two captured Common Buzzards that were tethered to the steering wheel.
All Im saying is, the facts tend to speak for themselves and we'd do we'll to keep an open mind on the causation factors of RTA's.

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Moreteavicar? says...
1:19pm Tue 12 Mar 13

Obviously all accidents are not caused by excessive speed.
Excessive speed is what causes speed-related accidents. By excessive speed I am referring to driving too fast for the circumstances. For example, there are many residential areas in Hereford where I consider 30mph to be excessive and drive accordingly. Conversely, Leominster bypass with its clear uninterrupted view and no side roads, given correct driving techniques and attitudes could safely be driven at a much higher speed than 60 mph.

If you would like to see a genuine candidate for speed monitoring, look no further than St Guthlac St during the rat-run. You take your life in your hands when stepping from your property onto the pavement as people mount the curb and continue on their way without slowing down!
School buses and taxis are in my experience particularly noticeable culprits.

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Biomech says...
9:49pm Tue 12 Mar 13

Really? Because whenever I've been up that road it's;

A: Full of cars park on the road so anything over 20/25 is pushing it,

B: After that squishy little bridge thing, it's pretty much an industrial zone.

C: After said squishy bridge thing, that's where you normally join the traffic jam of cars trying to get out of the junction.

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Ubique5740 says...
7:19am Wed 13 Mar 13

Bobby47, good morning my friend.

Re RTA , it appears that the Police no longer believe that an accident is an accident until they have closed the road for hours and investigated it. So they now call it RTC. (Collision ) and apparently if you reported an RTA to the Police you will get a blank stare (again!)

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bobby47 says...
11:49am Wed 13 Mar 13

Ubique, Really? They've been called RTA's since time began.
Let me guess....nothing is now ever an accident. It was either done on purpose or someone was to blame and this feeds into the no risk, someone's to blame compensation culture that is strangling the life out of our society.
I bloody despair.

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Biomech says...
12:31pm Wed 13 Mar 13

Yeah they changed to RTC a long time ago :P

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Moreteavicar? says...
12:32pm Wed 13 Mar 13

I rang 999 not so long ago to report an RTA - operator asked "Did I mean an RTC?". Threw me as well ;-)

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FormerStudent says...
10:09pm Wed 13 Mar 13

It was changed from accident to collision because accident implies that someone is not to blame or at fault.

The phrase of "I've had a car accident" came from the police calling them RTA's, whereas technically you've had a collision hence the RTC name

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retrexs says...
10:01am Thu 14 Mar 13

this is obviously nonsense as no where can you go 38mph in hereford city without causing expensive damage to suspension even Big Foot would suffer with these hereford pot holes

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dippyhippy says...
2:37pm Thu 14 Mar 13

This would explain the Hereford Times' love affair with the word "collision". Perhaps there is a similar rule which explains their pre-occupation with the word "altication!!".....

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Ubique5740 says...
3:04pm Sun 17 Mar 13

Just been watching a police documentary covering Hampshire , a Traffic car was sent to a RTI ( INCIDENT ) . Calling it an Incident leaves their options open!

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littlewhitebull says...
3:21pm Sun 17 Mar 13

Gwent Police have signs just outside Abergavenny asking for witnesses to a "Crash".

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