Badger cull: Three more arrests

Ledbury Reporter: Badger cull: Three more arrests Badger cull: Three more arrests

THREE people have been arrested in Newent on suspicion of aggravated trespass, as part of the police response to the badger cull.

The cull, aimed at tackling TB in cattle, is believed to have started earlier this month on the Gloucestershire- Worcestershire border.

A 20-year-old man from Walsall, a 52-year-old woman from Pittsburg in the United States of America, and a 26-year-old woman from South Croyden, in Surrey, were all arrested at about 1.45am today.

They were arrested in the Kents Green area of Newent, as part of Operation Themis - Gloucestershire Constabulary’s response to the pilot badger cull.

All three currently remain in police custody.

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11:10am Thu 19 Sep 13

tub_thumper says...

Shame. They are just trying to help by intervening with mans arrogance of killing an animal because it gets in the way. Trespass is a poor excuse for the police. How many marksmen get permission to enter land before they shoot a badger? They prpbably do get permission but they will probably wander away from their previous position. You don't hear about them getting arrested do you?
Shame. They are just trying to help by intervening with mans arrogance of killing an animal because it gets in the way. Trespass is a poor excuse for the police. How many marksmen get permission to enter land before they shoot a badger? They prpbably do get permission but they will probably wander away from their previous position. You don't hear about them getting arrested do you? tub_thumper
  • Score: -15

11:22am Thu 19 Sep 13

jb says...

tub_thumper wrote:
Shame. They are just trying to help by intervening with mans arrogance of killing an animal because it gets in the way. Trespass is a poor excuse for the police. How many marksmen get permission to enter land before they shoot a badger? They prpbably do get permission but they will probably wander away from their previous position. You don't hear about them getting arrested do you?
Tresspass is a civil matter although AGGRAVATED trespass is a criminal offence so from that we can take it these protestors were not simply walking across private land but committing offences at the same time. Also I doubt the marksmen would be allowed to just 'wander' around, from various reports they are closely monitored. Badgers are not being culled for any frivolous reason either they do spread disease, which I believe is an indisputable fact.
[quote][p][bold]tub_thumper[/bold] wrote: Shame. They are just trying to help by intervening with mans arrogance of killing an animal because it gets in the way. Trespass is a poor excuse for the police. How many marksmen get permission to enter land before they shoot a badger? They prpbably do get permission but they will probably wander away from their previous position. You don't hear about them getting arrested do you?[/p][/quote]Tresspass is a civil matter although AGGRAVATED trespass is a criminal offence so from that we can take it these protestors were not simply walking across private land but committing offences at the same time. Also I doubt the marksmen would be allowed to just 'wander' around, from various reports they are closely monitored. Badgers are not being culled for any frivolous reason either they do spread disease, which I believe is an indisputable fact. jb
  • Score: 11

12:13pm Thu 19 Sep 13

tub_thumper says...

jb wrote:
tub_thumper wrote:
Shame. They are just trying to help by intervening with mans arrogance of killing an animal because it gets in the way. Trespass is a poor excuse for the police. How many marksmen get permission to enter land before they shoot a badger? They prpbably do get permission but they will probably wander away from their previous position. You don't hear about them getting arrested do you?
Tresspass is a civil matter although AGGRAVATED trespass is a criminal offence so from that we can take it these protestors were not simply walking across private land but committing offences at the same time. Also I doubt the marksmen would be allowed to just 'wander' around, from various reports they are closely monitored. Badgers are not being culled for any frivolous reason either they do spread disease, which I believe is an indisputable fact.
They were probably just jumping over fences and moving things out of their way. Propaganda suggested criminal damage. But who knows? The story only tells you basic information. Kind of like your basic information that marksmen are closely monitored. How do I know?

And badgers spread a disease that was passed on to them by humans and cattle in the first place. Humans carry all sorts of diseases too. Why aren't we culled?
[quote][p][bold]jb[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tub_thumper[/bold] wrote: Shame. They are just trying to help by intervening with mans arrogance of killing an animal because it gets in the way. Trespass is a poor excuse for the police. How many marksmen get permission to enter land before they shoot a badger? They prpbably do get permission but they will probably wander away from their previous position. You don't hear about them getting arrested do you?[/p][/quote]Tresspass is a civil matter although AGGRAVATED trespass is a criminal offence so from that we can take it these protestors were not simply walking across private land but committing offences at the same time. Also I doubt the marksmen would be allowed to just 'wander' around, from various reports they are closely monitored. Badgers are not being culled for any frivolous reason either they do spread disease, which I believe is an indisputable fact.[/p][/quote]They were probably just jumping over fences and moving things out of their way. Propaganda suggested criminal damage. But who knows? The story only tells you basic information. Kind of like your basic information that marksmen are closely monitored. How do I know? And badgers spread a disease that was passed on to them by humans and cattle in the first place. Humans carry all sorts of diseases too. Why aren't we culled? tub_thumper
  • Score: -8

12:47pm Thu 19 Sep 13

jb says...

The people who protest against the culling in such a dangerous manner are not making any difference to the issue at all, it won't stop it happening so why don't they put all their energy into petitioning the government departments who sanctioned the culling rather than putting themselves in harms way? I read reports with an open mind, i don't know the full facts about this matter just like most people I only know what I've read or heard but it appears some people are extremely blinkered when it comes to this issue and refuse to believe anything which goes against their own opinions.
The people who protest against the culling in such a dangerous manner are not making any difference to the issue at all, it won't stop it happening so why don't they put all their energy into petitioning the government departments who sanctioned the culling rather than putting themselves in harms way? I read reports with an open mind, i don't know the full facts about this matter just like most people I only know what I've read or heard but it appears some people are extremely blinkered when it comes to this issue and refuse to believe anything which goes against their own opinions. jb
  • Score: 3

4:13pm Thu 19 Sep 13

tub_thumper says...

jb wrote:
The people who protest against the culling in such a dangerous manner are not making any difference to the issue at all, it won't stop it happening so why don't they put all their energy into petitioning the government departments who sanctioned the culling rather than putting themselves in harms way? I read reports with an open mind, i don't know the full facts about this matter just like most people I only know what I've read or heard but it appears some people are extremely blinkered when it comes to this issue and refuse to believe anything which goes against their own opinions.
... Because the government or relevant departments won't listen. So what else is one to do? After a while people will take matters into their own hands. But regardless, I applaud their selfless efforts in trying to save British wildlife. Well done!
[quote][p][bold]jb[/bold] wrote: The people who protest against the culling in such a dangerous manner are not making any difference to the issue at all, it won't stop it happening so why don't they put all their energy into petitioning the government departments who sanctioned the culling rather than putting themselves in harms way? I read reports with an open mind, i don't know the full facts about this matter just like most people I only know what I've read or heard but it appears some people are extremely blinkered when it comes to this issue and refuse to believe anything which goes against their own opinions.[/p][/quote]... Because the government or relevant departments won't listen. So what else is one to do? After a while people will take matters into their own hands. But regardless, I applaud their selfless efforts in trying to save British wildlife. Well done! tub_thumper
  • Score: -6

7:51pm Thu 19 Sep 13

Mr Analysis says...

As a relative of a few farmers and marksmen I can tell you they have to get permission. Even if they have the correct license to participate in this cull they can only do so on land they have permission to be on.

If they were to see a badger on the field next door to them that they had no permission to be on they cannot touch the badger.

The Cull is a good thing, You might not think so but TB is a real problem and it does not just effect the badgers (what have been allowed to breed out of control by the way) They used to be hunted for sport, and fur. But this was stopped and they have breeded rapidly and TB has been spreading.

The TB effects the lives of famers and shoppers. If Farmer's has to put cows down because of TB then the price of meat goes up. The Farmers can earn less because they have less to sell or earn the same by selling the meat at a higher price.

Yes the Cull means badgers get pushed from some parts into others, but this is good if they are pushed in the right direction away from cattle farms. So by there own evidence that this cull won't work shows that it really actually does.

No one is trying to wipe the badger out they are just attempting to relocate them away from cattle farms to make the farmers life more easy and to allow meat to be affordable.

TB is horrid it effects many peoples lifes and jobs. If it is allowed to get out of control we will end up sourcing beef from outside the UK. Leading to a huge loss of jobs in the meat industry.

Please don't tresspass on anyone's land. What they did is wrong and dangerous. Marksmen are not just carrying shotguns like most think in the day.

Most marksmen will set traps during the day and at night use HIGH POWER RIFLES to shoot with.

I am not 100% sure on what happens to the bodies of the badgers but I would bet they are handed in and then recorded and burnt, possibly even tested for TB.

You have a choice Save a load of Cows lives, get cheaper meat, allow people to have jobs and make a living OR... Have TB infested badgers.

The choice is simple. Something needed to be done like it or not.
As a relative of a few farmers and marksmen I can tell you they have to get permission. Even if they have the correct license to participate in this cull they can only do so on land they have permission to be on. If they were to see a badger on the field next door to them that they had no permission to be on they cannot touch the badger. The Cull is a good thing, You might not think so but TB is a real problem and it does not just effect the badgers (what have been allowed to breed out of control by the way) They used to be hunted for sport, and fur. But this was stopped and they have breeded rapidly and TB has been spreading. The TB effects the lives of famers and shoppers. If Farmer's has to put cows down because of TB then the price of meat goes up. The Farmers can earn less because they have less to sell or earn the same by selling the meat at a higher price. Yes the Cull means badgers get pushed from some parts into others, but this is good if they are pushed in the right direction away from cattle farms. So by there own evidence that this cull won't work shows that it really actually does. No one is trying to wipe the badger out they are just attempting to relocate them away from cattle farms to make the farmers life more easy and to allow meat to be affordable. TB is horrid it effects many peoples lifes and jobs. If it is allowed to get out of control we will end up sourcing beef from outside the UK. Leading to a huge loss of jobs in the meat industry. Please don't tresspass on anyone's land. What they did is wrong and dangerous. Marksmen are not just carrying shotguns like most think in the day. Most marksmen will set traps during the day and at night use HIGH POWER RIFLES to shoot with. I am not 100% sure on what happens to the bodies of the badgers but I would bet they are handed in and then recorded and burnt, possibly even tested for TB. You have a choice Save a load of Cows lives, get cheaper meat, allow people to have jobs and make a living OR... Have TB infested badgers. The choice is simple. Something needed to be done like it or not. Mr Analysis
  • Score: 20

10:14pm Thu 19 Sep 13

tub_thumper says...

Mr Analysis wrote:
As a relative of a few farmers and marksmen I can tell you they have to get permission. Even if they have the correct license to participate in this cull they can only do so on land they have permission to be on.

If they were to see a badger on the field next door to them that they had no permission to be on they cannot touch the badger.

The Cull is a good thing, You might not think so but TB is a real problem and it does not just effect the badgers (what have been allowed to breed out of control by the way) They used to be hunted for sport, and fur. But this was stopped and they have breeded rapidly and TB has been spreading.

The TB effects the lives of famers and shoppers. If Farmer's has to put cows down because of TB then the price of meat goes up. The Farmers can earn less because they have less to sell or earn the same by selling the meat at a higher price.

Yes the Cull means badgers get pushed from some parts into others, but this is good if they are pushed in the right direction away from cattle farms. So by there own evidence that this cull won't work shows that it really actually does.

No one is trying to wipe the badger out they are just attempting to relocate them away from cattle farms to make the farmers life more easy and to allow meat to be affordable.

TB is horrid it effects many peoples lifes and jobs. If it is allowed to get out of control we will end up sourcing beef from outside the UK. Leading to a huge loss of jobs in the meat industry.

Please don't tresspass on anyone's land. What they did is wrong and dangerous. Marksmen are not just carrying shotguns like most think in the day.

Most marksmen will set traps during the day and at night use HIGH POWER RIFLES to shoot with.

I am not 100% sure on what happens to the bodies of the badgers but I would bet they are handed in and then recorded and burnt, possibly even tested for TB.

You have a choice Save a load of Cows lives, get cheaper meat, allow people to have jobs and make a living OR... Have TB infested badgers.

The choice is simple. Something needed to be done like it or not.
You are obviously new to the badger cull debate, Mr Analysis, and it shows.

1) The cull is flawed because badgers are not tested for TB until after they are shot. This is not humane as healthy badgers are shot too.

2) why should man decide what ankmsl needs controlling?

3) Farmers have shot theirselves in the foot - people are more aware of animal welfare than ever before. People will now be boycotting meat from farms that have taken part in the cull.

4) FACT: Tubercolosis was spead by human migration many yeas ago. The disease jumped the species barrier and developed into the sub-species Bovine TB. We spread the disease. Should we be culled?

5) I am not a vegetarian or Vegan. I like meat and I only buy meat that is locally sourced and has been humanely killed in an abattoir. I can also live without meat as I don't want to buy imported meat. If meat prices inflated then that wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I just won't buy meat.

6) So what if man looses livelihood? Not my problem. And it surely isn't the badgers problem either.

7) And I agree with your last point (even though I think you worded it incorrectly). The choice that you have suggested by saving the lives of a load of cows, getting cheaper meat, allowing people to have jobs and make a living OR having TB infested badgers is win-win on both scenarios!
[quote][p][bold]Mr Analysis[/bold] wrote: As a relative of a few farmers and marksmen I can tell you they have to get permission. Even if they have the correct license to participate in this cull they can only do so on land they have permission to be on. If they were to see a badger on the field next door to them that they had no permission to be on they cannot touch the badger. The Cull is a good thing, You might not think so but TB is a real problem and it does not just effect the badgers (what have been allowed to breed out of control by the way) They used to be hunted for sport, and fur. But this was stopped and they have breeded rapidly and TB has been spreading. The TB effects the lives of famers and shoppers. If Farmer's has to put cows down because of TB then the price of meat goes up. The Farmers can earn less because they have less to sell or earn the same by selling the meat at a higher price. Yes the Cull means badgers get pushed from some parts into others, but this is good if they are pushed in the right direction away from cattle farms. So by there own evidence that this cull won't work shows that it really actually does. No one is trying to wipe the badger out they are just attempting to relocate them away from cattle farms to make the farmers life more easy and to allow meat to be affordable. TB is horrid it effects many peoples lifes and jobs. If it is allowed to get out of control we will end up sourcing beef from outside the UK. Leading to a huge loss of jobs in the meat industry. Please don't tresspass on anyone's land. What they did is wrong and dangerous. Marksmen are not just carrying shotguns like most think in the day. Most marksmen will set traps during the day and at night use HIGH POWER RIFLES to shoot with. I am not 100% sure on what happens to the bodies of the badgers but I would bet they are handed in and then recorded and burnt, possibly even tested for TB. You have a choice Save a load of Cows lives, get cheaper meat, allow people to have jobs and make a living OR... Have TB infested badgers. The choice is simple. Something needed to be done like it or not.[/p][/quote]You are obviously new to the badger cull debate, Mr Analysis, and it shows. 1) The cull is flawed because badgers are not tested for TB until after they are shot. This is not humane as healthy badgers are shot too. 2) why should man decide what ankmsl needs controlling? 3) Farmers have shot theirselves in the foot - people are more aware of animal welfare than ever before. People will now be boycotting meat from farms that have taken part in the cull. 4) FACT: Tubercolosis was spead by human migration many yeas ago. The disease jumped the species barrier and developed into the sub-species Bovine TB. We spread the disease. Should we be culled? 5) I am not a vegetarian or Vegan. I like meat and I only buy meat that is locally sourced and has been humanely killed in an abattoir. I can also live without meat as I don't want to buy imported meat. If meat prices inflated then that wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I just won't buy meat. 6) So what if man looses livelihood? Not my problem. And it surely isn't the badgers problem either. 7) And I agree with your last point (even though I think you worded it incorrectly). The choice that you have suggested by saving the lives of a load of cows, getting cheaper meat, allowing people to have jobs and make a living OR having TB infested badgers is win-win on both scenarios! tub_thumper
  • Score: -19

11:45am Fri 20 Sep 13

rogerout says...

this cull is being conducted in secrecy with relevant information for the Public being deliberately withheld.
One organisation made a request under the FOI Freedom of information act. They waited 8 months and no response was given After a subsequent enquiry to the FOI Comissioner. Defra Farming Minister David Heath Mp was ordered to produce the doc. a 28 page report was received with almost the entire 28 page document blacked out.
This is not Freedom of Information. It is deliberate evasion of the truth. Defra is not collecting any scientific data from this cull as no Badger corpses are tested for tb. I wonder why ?
this cull is supposed only to test the Humaneness and killing efficiency of the shooters.
Any Humaneness assessment will be assessed after the cull is finished by a panel of experts ??
But already situations of extreme animal suffering are coming to light on carcases that the shooters and police have been unable to retrieve before the Protesters on the Ground.
http://badger-killer
s.co.uk/badger-102-t
he-full-story/
Scientifically the cull is flawed based upon a wealth of reports by specialists in this Field. The electorate is being mislead, lied to by Defra and its ministers. On that basis any report following this cull will lack any integrity.
Going back to the three persons arrested the following link is relevant to Police/ NFU partnership. Who is running policing ??
http://www.theguardi
an.com/environment/g
eorgemonbiot/2013/se
p/19/police-uk-power
ful
this cull is being conducted in secrecy with relevant information for the Public being deliberately withheld. One organisation made a request under the FOI Freedom of information act. They waited 8 months and no response was given After a subsequent enquiry to the FOI Comissioner. Defra Farming Minister David Heath Mp was ordered to produce the doc. a 28 page report was received with almost the entire 28 page document blacked out. This is not Freedom of Information. It is deliberate evasion of the truth. Defra is not collecting any scientific data from this cull as no Badger corpses are tested for tb. I wonder why ? this cull is supposed only to test the Humaneness and killing efficiency of the shooters. Any Humaneness assessment will be assessed after the cull is finished by a panel of experts ?? But already situations of extreme animal suffering are coming to light on carcases that the shooters and police have been unable to retrieve before the Protesters on the Ground. http://badger-killer s.co.uk/badger-102-t he-full-story/ Scientifically the cull is flawed based upon a wealth of reports by specialists in this Field. The electorate is being mislead, lied to by Defra and its ministers. On that basis any report following this cull will lack any integrity. Going back to the three persons arrested the following link is relevant to Police/ NFU partnership. Who is running policing ?? http://www.theguardi an.com/environment/g eorgemonbiot/2013/se p/19/police-uk-power ful rogerout
  • Score: -5

12:04pm Fri 20 Sep 13

New Kid on the Block says...

Commit an arrestable offence - expect to get arrested.
If you wish to protest stay within the law.
Even if you like Tub thumper you are merely inciting others you could potentially be arrested yourself. Though in this case I rather doubt such a thing will happen.
Commit an arrestable offence - expect to get arrested. If you wish to protest stay within the law. Even if you like Tub thumper you are merely inciting others you could potentially be arrested yourself. Though in this case I rather doubt such a thing will happen. New Kid on the Block
  • Score: 21

6:28am Sat 21 Sep 13

Scotty Moore says...

New Kid on the Block wrote:
Commit an arrestable offence - expect to get arrested.
If you wish to protest stay within the law.
Even if you like Tub thumper you are merely inciting others you could potentially be arrested yourself. Though in this case I rather doubt such a thing will happen.
Give Tub Thumper his due, he has made an anguished crie de coeur to be culled himself. He really should be listened to.
[quote][p][bold]New Kid on the Block[/bold] wrote: Commit an arrestable offence - expect to get arrested. If you wish to protest stay within the law. Even if you like Tub thumper you are merely inciting others you could potentially be arrested yourself. Though in this case I rather doubt such a thing will happen.[/p][/quote]Give Tub Thumper his due, he has made an anguished crie de coeur to be culled himself. He really should be listened to. Scotty Moore
  • Score: 1

11:11pm Mon 23 Sep 13

countryborn says...

tub_thumper wrote:
Mr Analysis wrote:
As a relative of a few farmers and marksmen I can tell you they have to get permission. Even if they have the correct license to participate in this cull they can only do so on land they have permission to be on.

If they were to see a badger on the field next door to them that they had no permission to be on they cannot touch the badger.

The Cull is a good thing, You might not think so but TB is a real problem and it does not just effect the badgers (what have been allowed to breed out of control by the way) They used to be hunted for sport, and fur. But this was stopped and they have breeded rapidly and TB has been spreading.

The TB effects the lives of famers and shoppers. If Farmer's has to put cows down because of TB then the price of meat goes up. The Farmers can earn less because they have less to sell or earn the same by selling the meat at a higher price.

Yes the Cull means badgers get pushed from some parts into others, but this is good if they are pushed in the right direction away from cattle farms. So by there own evidence that this cull won't work shows that it really actually does.

No one is trying to wipe the badger out they are just attempting to relocate them away from cattle farms to make the farmers life more easy and to allow meat to be affordable.

TB is horrid it effects many peoples lifes and jobs. If it is allowed to get out of control we will end up sourcing beef from outside the UK. Leading to a huge loss of jobs in the meat industry.

Please don't tresspass on anyone's land. What they did is wrong and dangerous. Marksmen are not just carrying shotguns like most think in the day.

Most marksmen will set traps during the day and at night use HIGH POWER RIFLES to shoot with.

I am not 100% sure on what happens to the bodies of the badgers but I would bet they are handed in and then recorded and burnt, possibly even tested for TB.

You have a choice Save a load of Cows lives, get cheaper meat, allow people to have jobs and make a living OR... Have TB infested badgers.

The choice is simple. Something needed to be done like it or not.
You are obviously new to the badger cull debate, Mr Analysis, and it shows.

1) The cull is flawed because badgers are not tested for TB until after they are shot. This is not humane as healthy badgers are shot too.

2) why should man decide what ankmsl needs controlling?

3) Farmers have shot theirselves in the foot - people are more aware of animal welfare than ever before. People will now be boycotting meat from farms that have taken part in the cull.

4) FACT: Tubercolosis was spead by human migration many yeas ago. The disease jumped the species barrier and developed into the sub-species Bovine TB. We spread the disease. Should we be culled?

5) I am not a vegetarian or Vegan. I like meat and I only buy meat that is locally sourced and has been humanely killed in an abattoir. I can also live without meat as I don't want to buy imported meat. If meat prices inflated then that wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I just won't buy meat.

6) So what if man looses livelihood? Not my problem. And it surely isn't the badgers problem either.

7) And I agree with your last point (even though I think you worded it incorrectly). The choice that you have suggested by saving the lives of a load of cows, getting cheaper meat, allowing people to have jobs and make a living OR having TB infested badgers is win-win on both scenarios!
The badger cull will decrease the instance of TB in cattle, a good thing. Badger populations will decrease, a good thing. The hedgehog will have a few less predators, a good thing. Evidence for culling badgers you can find with the Irish farmer..despite misleading information from Antis the instance of TB has fallen by 50% in Ireland and is continuing to fall. We have welcomed the presence of police over the last couple of days, we have had Antis parking in dangerous places and places where they have no business to be. Best place for these professional protesters is back home or back to work..
[quote][p][bold]tub_thumper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Analysis[/bold] wrote: As a relative of a few farmers and marksmen I can tell you they have to get permission. Even if they have the correct license to participate in this cull they can only do so on land they have permission to be on. If they were to see a badger on the field next door to them that they had no permission to be on they cannot touch the badger. The Cull is a good thing, You might not think so but TB is a real problem and it does not just effect the badgers (what have been allowed to breed out of control by the way) They used to be hunted for sport, and fur. But this was stopped and they have breeded rapidly and TB has been spreading. The TB effects the lives of famers and shoppers. If Farmer's has to put cows down because of TB then the price of meat goes up. The Farmers can earn less because they have less to sell or earn the same by selling the meat at a higher price. Yes the Cull means badgers get pushed from some parts into others, but this is good if they are pushed in the right direction away from cattle farms. So by there own evidence that this cull won't work shows that it really actually does. No one is trying to wipe the badger out they are just attempting to relocate them away from cattle farms to make the farmers life more easy and to allow meat to be affordable. TB is horrid it effects many peoples lifes and jobs. If it is allowed to get out of control we will end up sourcing beef from outside the UK. Leading to a huge loss of jobs in the meat industry. Please don't tresspass on anyone's land. What they did is wrong and dangerous. Marksmen are not just carrying shotguns like most think in the day. Most marksmen will set traps during the day and at night use HIGH POWER RIFLES to shoot with. I am not 100% sure on what happens to the bodies of the badgers but I would bet they are handed in and then recorded and burnt, possibly even tested for TB. You have a choice Save a load of Cows lives, get cheaper meat, allow people to have jobs and make a living OR... Have TB infested badgers. The choice is simple. Something needed to be done like it or not.[/p][/quote]You are obviously new to the badger cull debate, Mr Analysis, and it shows. 1) The cull is flawed because badgers are not tested for TB until after they are shot. This is not humane as healthy badgers are shot too. 2) why should man decide what ankmsl needs controlling? 3) Farmers have shot theirselves in the foot - people are more aware of animal welfare than ever before. People will now be boycotting meat from farms that have taken part in the cull. 4) FACT: Tubercolosis was spead by human migration many yeas ago. The disease jumped the species barrier and developed into the sub-species Bovine TB. We spread the disease. Should we be culled? 5) I am not a vegetarian or Vegan. I like meat and I only buy meat that is locally sourced and has been humanely killed in an abattoir. I can also live without meat as I don't want to buy imported meat. If meat prices inflated then that wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I just won't buy meat. 6) So what if man looses livelihood? Not my problem. And it surely isn't the badgers problem either. 7) And I agree with your last point (even though I think you worded it incorrectly). The choice that you have suggested by saving the lives of a load of cows, getting cheaper meat, allowing people to have jobs and make a living OR having TB infested badgers is win-win on both scenarios![/p][/quote]The badger cull will decrease the instance of TB in cattle, a good thing. Badger populations will decrease, a good thing. The hedgehog will have a few less predators, a good thing. Evidence for culling badgers you can find with the Irish farmer..despite misleading information from Antis the instance of TB has fallen by 50% in Ireland and is continuing to fall. We have welcomed the presence of police over the last couple of days, we have had Antis parking in dangerous places and places where they have no business to be. Best place for these professional protesters is back home or back to work.. countryborn
  • Score: 0

10:56pm Wed 2 Oct 13

Jay1981 says...

The antis are a danger to there self And others. Walkin over areas they have no right on. Badgers need to be culled. Farms are at wits end. They cant do anything these days with out new rules from EU butting in

These antis have proved how silly the get. Look at the mink the let use years ago. Who have now gone on to kill native animals ofthe country
The antis are a danger to there self And others. Walkin over areas they have no right on. Badgers need to be culled. Farms are at wits end. They cant do anything these days with out new rules from EU butting in These antis have proved how silly the get. Look at the mink the let use years ago. Who have now gone on to kill native animals ofthe country Jay1981
  • Score: 0

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