Health and safety expert criticises Greenway Bridge

Ledbury Reporter: The new Greenway Bridge. The new Greenway Bridge.

A HEALTH and safety expert has branded a new cycle route in Hereford as a "death trap".

The Greenway Bridge, which runs across the River Wye linking Bartonsham to Rotherwas, will help workers get to the Hereford Enterprise Zone in a more environmentally friendly fashion.

The bridge, which was officially opened by Herefordshire Council vice-chairman Councillor Chris Chappell earlier this month, is also aimed at encouraging people to get on their bikes and travel round the city - taking a couple of hundred cars off the road in the process.

The route largely follows the dismantled Hereford to Ross-on-Wye railway through to Thorn Business Park, while the rest of the route to Chapel Road was opened on Friday.

But, Geoff Frasle, a health and safety representative for the University and College (UCU) Union, said that the route is too dangerous and is worried that a cyclist could get seriously hurt.

"There is a health and safety issue because there is no signage by the railway bridge on Eign Road telling people to beware of cyclists," said Mr Fresle, who teaches welding and fabrication at Holme Lacy College.

"Nearby Outfall Works Road is very narrow and 40 tonne trucks go down it.

"When you leave the road by Mike Brookes Transport in Thorn Business Park, you go round the back of the buildings and can be in darkness.

"I am not trying to stop people from cycling, but I do not want anyone to get injured."

Mr Fresle added that Quick Skip has provided him with high-visibility jackets to give to his students.

But, he said that Herefordshire Council should be held responsible for a "poor risk assessment."

"I am very passionate about health and safety and I think that Holme Lacy Road is safer for cyclists than the cycle route," said Mr Fresle.

"The route has been poorly thought out and is a death trap waiting to happen."

Herefordshire Council's Michelle Morgan said that the scheme does include appropriate signing along the route and other signs will be installed as soon as possible.

"Sections of the route are lit and the bridge deck is lit along its length," she said.

"The rural section between the bridge and the estate is not lit as is the case with other rural routes of this type in the county, but the scheme was designed in line with guidance and subjected to a safety audit to ensure the safety of pedestrians and cyclists.”

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9:54am Tue 31 Dec 13

AylestoneVoice says...

One - It is risk averse people like Geoff who frustrate those trying to get on with improving the city. He will want all cyclists to have stabilisers soon as two wheels are dangerous. Yes it is a bit dodgy by Quick Skip but you take care.
Two - typical Council response. What they should have said is - look it is a brilliant facility so take your publicity seeking moans and shove them.
One - It is risk averse people like Geoff who frustrate those trying to get on with improving the city. He will want all cyclists to have stabilisers soon as two wheels are dangerous. Yes it is a bit dodgy by Quick Skip but you take care. Two - typical Council response. What they should have said is - look it is a brilliant facility so take your publicity seeking moans and shove them. AylestoneVoice

10:17am Tue 31 Dec 13

William Rudd says...

Good old health & safety rears it's ugly head yet again
Good old health & safety rears it's ugly head yet again William Rudd

10:46am Tue 31 Dec 13

bobby47 says...

Bloody Health and Safety. Well they can get stuffed for starters. I don't want to live in their world. I want to go to bloody bed, kneel as I'd normally do, say me Lords bloody Prayer and let fate and God do the rest.
Furthermore, if when I've staggered out of the house carrying my Shimano Barbel Classic Rod, some fifteen ton truck flattens me then as far as Im concerned, God did it to me for a purpose and its all fine and dandy'ho by me.
I'll be damned if I sit back and say nothing as Health and Safety join the queue and start moaning about the Council. This cycle track and its bridge is a good thing and for once, Hereford Council have done something right. Mind, if the floods do come and the deluge washes away the Tarmac footpath then Im more than ready and willing to moan about that but until that happens, and I hope it doesn't, I say well done the Council and the Health and Safety can go elsewhere In their pursuit of a risk free world.
And if this Health and Safety chap creeps up behind me whilst Im fishing and suggests I tether myself to a fixed structure, I earth my landing net because of lightening and I wear a yellow suit then Im going to roll him around in nettles.
Stinging nettles mind. None of your early autumn, mamby, pamby, they don't sting nettles. Your actual stinging nettles. The sort you get in late July that can ruin your entire day after you've been stung by one.
I'd like to see him carry out a dynamic risk assessment of that little event. Lets see how he feels clutching his clip board as I roll him round in nettles screaming, 'before you left your dwelling, why didn't you carry out a risk assessment against being rolled around in nettles.'
Bloody Health and Safety!
Bloody Health and Safety. Well they can get stuffed for starters. I don't want to live in their world. I want to go to bloody bed, kneel as I'd normally do, say me Lords bloody Prayer and let fate and God do the rest. Furthermore, if when I've staggered out of the house carrying my Shimano Barbel Classic Rod, some fifteen ton truck flattens me then as far as Im concerned, God did it to me for a purpose and its all fine and dandy'ho by me. I'll be damned if I sit back and say nothing as Health and Safety join the queue and start moaning about the Council. This cycle track and its bridge is a good thing and for once, Hereford Council have done something right. Mind, if the floods do come and the deluge washes away the Tarmac footpath then Im more than ready and willing to moan about that but until that happens, and I hope it doesn't, I say well done the Council and the Health and Safety can go elsewhere In their pursuit of a risk free world. And if this Health and Safety chap creeps up behind me whilst Im fishing and suggests I tether myself to a fixed structure, I earth my landing net because of lightening and I wear a yellow suit then Im going to roll him around in nettles. Stinging nettles mind. None of your early autumn, mamby, pamby, they don't sting nettles. Your actual stinging nettles. The sort you get in late July that can ruin your entire day after you've been stung by one. I'd like to see him carry out a dynamic risk assessment of that little event. Lets see how he feels clutching his clip board as I roll him round in nettles screaming, 'before you left your dwelling, why didn't you carry out a risk assessment against being rolled around in nettles.' Bloody Health and Safety! bobby47

11:05am Tue 31 Dec 13

nickt2635 says...

So Mr Health and beauty man, city centre traffic and the straight mile, or the new greenway? Hmmmmmm......No brainer really, yes the greenway is a bit dodgy in places such as outfall works rd and the tiny bit of a road near quikskip but when you cross any road you must take care but at least that road only has the odd lorry trundling up and down at about 10 mph as opposed to trying to cross a city centre road with cars and trucks zooming in both directions! And if the Church had been a bit more caring and given up a tiny bit of land we could have had a designated path across the field from crozen lane directly to the start of the bridge missing outfall works rd altogether but that's another subject. And i for one would much rather be breathing in fresh country air across those fields than the traffic fumes in town!!! So do as AylestoneVoice says and take your publicity seeking moans and groans and shove them!!!
So Mr Health and beauty man, city centre traffic and the straight mile, or the new greenway? Hmmmmmm......No brainer really, yes the greenway is a bit dodgy in places such as outfall works rd and the tiny bit of a road near quikskip but when you cross any road you must take care but at least that road only has the odd lorry trundling up and down at about 10 mph as opposed to trying to cross a city centre road with cars and trucks zooming in both directions! And if the Church had been a bit more caring and given up a tiny bit of land we could have had a designated path across the field from crozen lane directly to the start of the bridge missing outfall works rd altogether but that's another subject. And i for one would much rather be breathing in fresh country air across those fields than the traffic fumes in town!!! So do as AylestoneVoice says and take your publicity seeking moans and groans and shove them!!! nickt2635

11:17am Tue 31 Dec 13

Quodlibet says...

I've met people "Passionate" about health & safety before & generally they are very sad individuals who cannot see the wood for the trees.
I've met people "Passionate" about health & safety before & generally they are very sad individuals who cannot see the wood for the trees. Quodlibet

11:19am Tue 31 Dec 13

Everywhere says...

We all know what the definition of an "expert" is !
Knowing that this Council would have done a risk assessment for the project and knowing that this route is very much safer for cyclists than the alternatives this expert should keep his thoughts to himself , of course ,in the fullness of time there may well be an accident along this stretch and he will say "there you are , I was right , now the Council should hire me as a Consultant "

My concern also is that in his role at the College he is probably teaching a generation to wrap themselves up in cotton wool and not teaching them the University of life and hard knocks.
We all know what the definition of an "expert" is ! Knowing that this Council would have done a risk assessment for the project and knowing that this route is very much safer for cyclists than the alternatives this expert should keep his thoughts to himself , of course ,in the fullness of time there may well be an accident along this stretch and he will say "there you are , I was right , now the Council should hire me as a Consultant " My concern also is that in his role at the College he is probably teaching a generation to wrap themselves up in cotton wool and not teaching them the University of life and hard knocks. Everywhere

11:20am Tue 31 Dec 13

Everywhere says...

Should of added for the Moderator that "criticises " has been spelt incorrectly in the heading.
Should of added for the Moderator that "criticises " has been spelt incorrectly in the heading. Everywhere

11:43am Tue 31 Dec 13

TwoWheelsGood says...

Eign Road isn't part of the Greenway Mr Grumpy Fresle, so no reason to festoon it with idiot signs. The route is from/to Outfall Works Rd is via Crozen Lane, Harold St, Nelson St, Castle Green, Cathedral. A very ill informed, unhelpful and unnecessary tantrum by Mr Fresle. He can risk life and limb along Holme Lacy Road if he thinks this is safer for cyclists than the cycle route (a ridiculous statement from a so called H & S 'expert') - the rest of us will take the pleasant and safer option.
Eign Road isn't part of the Greenway Mr Grumpy Fresle, so no reason to festoon it with idiot signs. The route is from/to Outfall Works Rd is via Crozen Lane, Harold St, Nelson St, Castle Green, Cathedral. A very ill informed, unhelpful and unnecessary tantrum by Mr Fresle. He can risk life and limb along Holme Lacy Road if he thinks this is safer for cyclists than the cycle route (a ridiculous statement from a so called H & S 'expert') - the rest of us will take the pleasant and safer option. TwoWheelsGood

11:44am Tue 31 Dec 13

bobby47 says...

Oh they're all passionate nowadays aren't they? Im passionate about this and Im passionate about that. No matter how mind numbingly boring, tedious and dull and highly uninteresting the role is, they're passionate about it. In fact, if you don't scream from the rooftops how passionate you are, more than likely, you won't get the job you applied for because the fool who's dishing out the rewards is passionate about being told how passionate someone is.
I'd like to take all these passionate people, hand them a shovel, introduce them to a vast pile of human excrement and demand they show me passion as they shovelled our human waste from one place to another.
Im nearing my fortieth anniversary of my union before God and if I knew then what I know now I'd have certainly been less passionate with my tormentor the wife. She who regularly and passionately hits me in the face with her frying pan, screaming, ' take that fat face'.
In fact, if that Health and Safety chap comes up my path, taps on my door and starts lecturing me on the joys and the wonders of the passionate world of Health and Safety, Im going to hand him a tube of ointment, a length of bandage and a little pamphlet titled, 'what to do when some passionate fool has hit you in the face with a frying pan.'
Oh they're all passionate nowadays aren't they? Im passionate about this and Im passionate about that. No matter how mind numbingly boring, tedious and dull and highly uninteresting the role is, they're passionate about it. In fact, if you don't scream from the rooftops how passionate you are, more than likely, you won't get the job you applied for because the fool who's dishing out the rewards is passionate about being told how passionate someone is. I'd like to take all these passionate people, hand them a shovel, introduce them to a vast pile of human excrement and demand they show me passion as they shovelled our human waste from one place to another. Im nearing my fortieth anniversary of my union before God and if I knew then what I know now I'd have certainly been less passionate with my tormentor the wife. She who regularly and passionately hits me in the face with her frying pan, screaming, ' take that fat face'. In fact, if that Health and Safety chap comes up my path, taps on my door and starts lecturing me on the joys and the wonders of the passionate world of Health and Safety, Im going to hand him a tube of ointment, a length of bandage and a little pamphlet titled, 'what to do when some passionate fool has hit you in the face with a frying pan.' bobby47

12:24pm Tue 31 Dec 13

B the B says...

Mr Fresle teaches welding and fabrication at Holme Lacy College and not a Health and Safety expert, clearly talking out of his backside.
But saying that, it is slightly dangerous , having managed to get my car on the track to miss the traffic, it leaves very little room for the public and cyclists to jump out of the way,
Mr Fresle teaches welding and fabrication at Holme Lacy College and not a Health and Safety expert, clearly talking out of his backside. But saying that, it is slightly dangerous , having managed to get my car on the track to miss the traffic, it leaves very little room for the public and cyclists to jump out of the way, B the B

12:43pm Tue 31 Dec 13

silentbull2 says...

1-0 to the council then

Until an accident happens that is ;-)
1-0 to the council then Until an accident happens that is ;-) silentbull2

5:01pm Tue 31 Dec 13

ItsNotaMarathonItsaSprint says...

Everywhere wrote:
Should of added for the Moderator that "criticises " has been spelt incorrectly in the heading.
Should 'have' added.....
[quote][p][bold]Everywhere[/bold] wrote: Should of added for the Moderator that "criticises " has been spelt incorrectly in the heading.[/p][/quote]Should 'have' added..... ItsNotaMarathonItsaSprint

5:09pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Everywhere says...

ItsNotaMarathonItsaS
print
wrote:
Everywhere wrote:
Should of added for the Moderator that "criticises " has been spelt incorrectly in the heading.
Should 'have' added.....
Thank you so much for correcting me - at least I am not a Reporter or an English Teacher nor never have been , who one would expect to get it right.
Have a very happy New Year
[quote][p][bold]ItsNotaMarathonItsaS print[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Everywhere[/bold] wrote: Should of added for the Moderator that "criticises " has been spelt incorrectly in the heading.[/p][/quote]Should 'have' added.....[/p][/quote]Thank you so much for correcting me - at least I am not a Reporter or an English Teacher nor never have been , who one would expect to get it right. Have a very happy New Year Everywhere

5:42pm Tue 31 Dec 13

dippyhippy says...

Surely it should be,

It's not a marathon, it's a sprint.

If we're going to be pedantic!
Surely it should be, It's not a marathon, it's a sprint. If we're going to be pedantic! dippyhippy

8:30pm Tue 31 Dec 13

littlewhitebull says...

Another Health and Safety expert states the obvious - roads are dangerous. Yes, all the signs welcoming people to our county should be festooned with other signs telling of the dangers that face all users of the roads - these signs would go on for miles!!!!! How silly.
A few years ago, I was in Ashton, Northants when I attended the British (or UK) Conker Championships - great fun; almost as exciting as watching footie at Edgar Street!
The event was sponsored by the Occupational Health and Safety people! Yes, absolutely true. They wished to show that it is only silly individuals that decide that an activity is dangerous. This was because some Headteachers had started banning conkers at school as it was against "health and Safety Regulations".
This was false as proved by the statement made by the Health and Safety Executive: 'The safety risk from playing conkers is "incredibly low and not worth bothering about'.
If we all used our common sense when engaged in any activity life would be better, in my humble opinion.
King Bobby should take extreme care when barbel fishing. Take an ark with you, sire. Tight lines.
A happy and safe 2014 to all posters.
Another Health and Safety expert states the obvious - roads are dangerous. Yes, all the signs welcoming people to our county should be festooned with other signs telling of the dangers that face all users of the roads - these signs would go on for miles!!!!! How silly. A few years ago, I was in Ashton, Northants when I attended the British (or UK) Conker Championships - great fun; almost as exciting as watching footie at Edgar Street! The event was sponsored by the Occupational Health and Safety people! Yes, absolutely true. They wished to show that it is only silly individuals that decide that an activity is dangerous. This was because some Headteachers had started banning conkers at school as it was against "health and Safety Regulations". This was false as proved by the statement made by the Health and Safety Executive: 'The safety risk from playing conkers is "incredibly low and not worth bothering about'. If we all used our common sense when engaged in any activity life would be better, in my humble opinion. King Bobby should take extreme care when barbel fishing. Take an ark with you, sire. Tight lines. A happy and safe 2014 to all posters. littlewhitebull

11:09am Thu 2 Jan 14

Hereford Voice says...

William Rudd wrote:
Good old health & safety rears it's ugly head yet again
Yep! Complete jokers in my opinion and ALWAYS over the top
[quote][p][bold]William Rudd[/bold] wrote: Good old health & safety rears it's ugly head yet again[/p][/quote]Yep! Complete jokers in my opinion and ALWAYS over the top Hereford Voice

11:10am Thu 2 Jan 14

Hereford Voice says...

William Rudd wrote:
Good old health & safety rears it's ugly head yet again
Yep! Complete jokers and always over the top in my opinion, what ever happened to good old common sense?
[quote][p][bold]William Rudd[/bold] wrote: Good old health & safety rears it's ugly head yet again[/p][/quote]Yep! Complete jokers and always over the top in my opinion, what ever happened to good old common sense? Hereford Voice

6:11pm Thu 2 Jan 14

TIM BUCK-TOO says...

Flamin' Ffffiona. What IS occuring here? Silentbull, Dippy, King Bobby, Two Wheels and even grouchy old Aylestone Voice ALL singing from the same hymn sheet? And the consensus is that Mr Frasle is New Year Numpty Numero Uno! To which I'd humbly add the suggestion that this has to be the HT's most fatuous non-story of the year. But you've still got 363 days left to come up with a bigger clunker guys and gals.
Flamin' Ffffiona. What IS occuring here? Silentbull, Dippy, King Bobby, Two Wheels and even grouchy old Aylestone Voice ALL singing from the same hymn sheet? And the consensus is that Mr Frasle is New Year Numpty Numero Uno! To which I'd humbly add the suggestion that this has to be the HT's most fatuous non-story of the year. But you've still got 363 days left to come up with a bigger clunker guys and gals. TIM BUCK-TOO

7:27pm Thu 2 Jan 14

fmrbill says...

and i couldnt give a S***T either way
and i couldnt give a S***T either way fmrbill

9:22pm Thu 2 Jan 14

dippyhippy says...

Hey, FmrBill!
Happy New Year to you! Did you get a break over Christmas? I hope so!

Evening Tim! It won't last, it never does for long....let's just enjoy the calm before the storm!
Hey, FmrBill! Happy New Year to you! Did you get a break over Christmas? I hope so! Evening Tim! It won't last, it never does for long....let's just enjoy the calm before the storm! dippyhippy

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