'What a load of rubbish': Bin collections in the county set to become fortnightly

'What a load of rubbish': Bin collections in the county set to become fortnightly

John Newman says councillors who propose fortnightly collections are 'not living in the real world'.

'What a load of rubbish': Bin collections in the county set to become fortnightly

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WEALTHY councillors proposing fortnightly rubbish collections across the county do not realise what the change will mean in the “real world”.

That is the belief of John Newman, a former councillor who lives on Hereford’s Newton Farm estate, one of the most densely populated areas of the county.

Herefordshire Council could sign off fortnightly collections as soon as this month with a start date for the new timetable beginning in November.

But Mr Newman, a Hereford City and Herefordshire councillor for 30 years, fears rubbish dumping and related vermin infestation will rise within weeks of the new rounds starting.

“It’s all right for them, living in their posh houses out in the sticks but Newton Farm, and other areas like this, are congested,” he said.

“All you are going to see once the collections become fortnightly is rubbish being dumped all over the place and an increase in rats and other vermin – I think it’s awful and it will cause major problems for big families.

“At the moment people are putting out maybe two bags each week, over two weeks these two become four or five and that’s when the problems begin.”

Richard Johnston, the chairman of the Newton Farm Community Association, said if collections become fortnightly a better alternative to black bags must be offered.

“Black bags aren’t good enough – they will be ripped open by animals and this will lead to an infestation of rats and bacteria,” he added.

“The council will need to put money into supplying large, secure bins that can hold all the bags.”

Currently, black bags containing household waste are collected every week in the county while recycling is collected every two weeks.

The new service, provided for in the council’s 2014- 15 budget plan, would see both recycling and household waste collected every two weeks.

In a statement, the council defended fortnightly collections as part of its cuts plan, saying a majority of councils in England have adopted alternate weekly collections.

Responding to questions for an alternative to black bags, Kerry Thomson, a council press officer, added: “We are keen to promote waste minimisation and consequently provide a subsidised home composter scheme which is very popular.

“A lot of food waste can be put into home composters which means useful garden compost is produced and there is no need for more refuse vehicles to pick up this material to take it to a processing plant along with the associated costs.

“Consequently, we have no plans at the present time to bring in a food waste collection service in Herefordshire.”

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7:44am Fri 7 Mar 14

silentbull2 says...

More rubbish, more chance of an increase in Rat population
More chance that the standard of health & safety will go down too
But it's progress!!!!! ;-)

All because the council wants to save in one area (rubbish collection) and spend in another area (you choose, but I bet there pay rise is safe)
More rubbish, more chance of an increase in Rat population More chance that the standard of health & safety will go down too But it's progress!!!!! ;-) All because the council wants to save in one area (rubbish collection) and spend in another area (you choose, but I bet there pay rise is safe) silentbull2
  • Score: 16

8:11am Fri 7 Mar 14

AylestoneVoice says...

I do not agree with fortnightly collections, but if everyone who has a garden used a composter and everyone only bought the food they need and did not throw so much out then a lot of the potential problems would be reduced.
I do not agree with fortnightly collections, but if everyone who has a garden used a composter and everyone only bought the food they need and did not throw so much out then a lot of the potential problems would be reduced. AylestoneVoice
  • Score: 0

10:47am Fri 7 Mar 14

Jethamy says...

All our vegetable peelings etc are composted, our re-cycling bin is full to the top every fortnight therefore we are only leaving half a bin bag of rubbish out to be collected every week. Rats are attracted to cooked foods thrown on the compost and also to the amount of discarded food that is being chucked onto our streets every day! The only thing that would bother me about fortnightly collections would possibly be the smell from the bins on a hot summer's day.
All our vegetable peelings etc are composted, our re-cycling bin is full to the top every fortnight therefore we are only leaving half a bin bag of rubbish out to be collected every week. Rats are attracted to cooked foods thrown on the compost and also to the amount of discarded food that is being chucked onto our streets every day! The only thing that would bother me about fortnightly collections would possibly be the smell from the bins on a hot summer's day. Jethamy
  • Score: 9

11:38am Fri 7 Mar 14

herefordman99 says...

All well and good saying to compost food waste to reduce the amount that ends up in the bin - but spare a thought for those that live in a flat with no garden, or those that have a small garden (which appears to be a trend with modern houses) without enough room for a composter?

I can see it's to save the coucil money - fair enough, the wonderful Government have cut funding to everything to try and get the country out of the financial mess it has been in. So why don't the council cut some of the top jobs? The silly posts that have wages in the £40k per year and over range? Redistribute the workload among the other staff, give them a small pay rise, and save some cash.

Trim the tree from the top branches, not the roots......
All well and good saying to compost food waste to reduce the amount that ends up in the bin - but spare a thought for those that live in a flat with no garden, or those that have a small garden (which appears to be a trend with modern houses) without enough room for a composter? I can see it's to save the coucil money - fair enough, the wonderful Government have cut funding to everything to try and get the country out of the financial mess it has been in. So why don't the council cut some of the top jobs? The silly posts that have wages in the £40k per year and over range? Redistribute the workload among the other staff, give them a small pay rise, and save some cash. Trim the tree from the top branches, not the roots...... herefordman99
  • Score: 26

11:54am Fri 7 Mar 14

fordshire77 says...

If this poorly thought idea happens I will have Herefordshire Council phone number on speed dial!, as it will be them I will be calling to come and clear up the rat infestation that will occur near to me.
Close by to where I live are is a lovely family and they have 4 young children, their green bin is full every 2 weeks and have at least 4/5 black bags a week, so what is going to happen to their extra bin bags? as neither of them have a car, so going of to the tip to dispose isn’t an option for them!
There are a lot of young family in my area so I cant see this being an isolated incident!
Saving £500k will in fact in practice end up being a few thousand pounds after all the extra cleaning up that will be needed!
I wonder how many councillors are going to be effected by this.....let me tell you.....NONE!
If this poorly thought idea happens I will have Herefordshire Council phone number on speed dial!, as it will be them I will be calling to come and clear up the rat infestation that will occur near to me. Close by to where I live are is a lovely family and they have 4 young children, their green bin is full every 2 weeks and have at least 4/5 black bags a week, so what is going to happen to their extra bin bags? as neither of them have a car, so going of to the tip to dispose isn’t an option for them! There are a lot of young family in my area so I cant see this being an isolated incident! Saving £500k will in fact in practice end up being a few thousand pounds after all the extra cleaning up that will be needed! I wonder how many councillors are going to be effected by this.....let me tell you.....NONE! fordshire77
  • Score: 19

12:07pm Fri 7 Mar 14

bobby47 says...

Right! Thats it. I've had enough. Let them go ahead with their plan to take my bloody rubbish away once a rotten fortnight.
I'll tell you now, not one single black sack full of my bloody rubbish will ever get split, ripped, gnarled at or bust by any species of the animal kingdom. Not while I've got the wind in my sails.
Never! I'll be damned if I wake up every bloody morning to sweep up egg shell, my Grandaughters nappies and the leftovers of my mixed kebab. Never!
And this is what Im going to do. Whatever species decided to walk, crawl, slide or fly toward my bloody rubbish is getting dispatched to meet its bloody maker. If I have to sit outside my house for a bloody fortnight watching these black plastic refuse sacks I'll do it. I'll be damned if this Council beats me.
This here is a home for good folk. Folk who diligently recycle their rubbish, pay their Council tax and say their Lords Prayer and I'll be damned if this latest twist of the knife is going to unsettle me and my way of life.
And when the bloody Council wildlife Officer decides to tippy toe up my path and collect the corpses of these beautiful creatures that I've clubbed to death because they were trying to feast upon the stuff we didn't want to bloody eat, I'll tell him to, 'Clear Off and if you try to chew through my plastic I'll club you as we'll. Be gone. Go bother someone else. Im watching my bloody bags'.
Bloody Council! In fact, if they choose now to penalise me and only visit me once a bloody month, I'll start fly tipping in Johnson's back bloody garden.
He won't like that. Who would? I know what I'd say if I woke up and found a pile of someone else's rubbish strewn all over my bloody herbaceous borders. I'd shout, 'call the Constable I want some habeus corpus'!
Right! Thats it. I've had enough. Let them go ahead with their plan to take my bloody rubbish away once a rotten fortnight. I'll tell you now, not one single black sack full of my bloody rubbish will ever get split, ripped, gnarled at or bust by any species of the animal kingdom. Not while I've got the wind in my sails. Never! I'll be damned if I wake up every bloody morning to sweep up egg shell, my Grandaughters nappies and the leftovers of my mixed kebab. Never! And this is what Im going to do. Whatever species decided to walk, crawl, slide or fly toward my bloody rubbish is getting dispatched to meet its bloody maker. If I have to sit outside my house for a bloody fortnight watching these black plastic refuse sacks I'll do it. I'll be damned if this Council beats me. This here is a home for good folk. Folk who diligently recycle their rubbish, pay their Council tax and say their Lords Prayer and I'll be damned if this latest twist of the knife is going to unsettle me and my way of life. And when the bloody Council wildlife Officer decides to tippy toe up my path and collect the corpses of these beautiful creatures that I've clubbed to death because they were trying to feast upon the stuff we didn't want to bloody eat, I'll tell him to, 'Clear Off and if you try to chew through my plastic I'll club you as we'll. Be gone. Go bother someone else. Im watching my bloody bags'. Bloody Council! In fact, if they choose now to penalise me and only visit me once a bloody month, I'll start fly tipping in Johnson's back bloody garden. He won't like that. Who would? I know what I'd say if I woke up and found a pile of someone else's rubbish strewn all over my bloody herbaceous borders. I'd shout, 'call the Constable I want some habeus corpus'! bobby47
  • Score: 18

12:16pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Shoefairy says...

How exciting, does that mean we will have a reduction in our council tax?
How exciting, does that mean we will have a reduction in our council tax? Shoefairy
  • Score: 11

12:37pm Fri 7 Mar 14

A.Non01 says...

AylestoneVoice wrote:
I do not agree with fortnightly collections, but if everyone who has a garden used a composter and everyone only bought the food they need and did not throw so much out then a lot of the potential problems would be reduced.
Everything you say is true but is actually irrelevant with regards to collection frequency. The stuff that is going to cause the problems with vermin etc is the very stuff that cannot be recycled or composted.

This is a disgraceful proposal. Unless Herefordshire council are going to provide me with a secure and vermin proof alternative to black bags they WILL continue to collect my rubbish weekly and quite frankly I do not care if I have to put my rubbish in the middle of the street to achieve this.
[quote][p][bold]AylestoneVoice[/bold] wrote: I do not agree with fortnightly collections, but if everyone who has a garden used a composter and everyone only bought the food they need and did not throw so much out then a lot of the potential problems would be reduced.[/p][/quote]Everything you say is true but is actually irrelevant with regards to collection frequency. The stuff that is going to cause the problems with vermin etc is the very stuff that cannot be recycled or composted. This is a disgraceful proposal. Unless Herefordshire council are going to provide me with a secure and vermin proof alternative to black bags they WILL continue to collect my rubbish weekly and quite frankly I do not care if I have to put my rubbish in the middle of the street to achieve this. A.Non01
  • Score: 10

1:11pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Councillor Patricia Morgan says...

This article raises some good points and possibly some unfounded fears and some miss information. In 2009 when the wheelie bins were introduced there was also concern and recycling rates were just under 30% - rates are now over 40% and the service is universally praised. Assuming the decision is made to change rubbish collection, black wheelie bins (for non-recyclable waste) and alternate week collection will be introduced. Based on the many other (67%) authorities who have alternate week collections the recycling is likely to rise to 45%. This will have both financial and environmental benefits. Specific local concerns can and will be addressed as per the introduction of green wheelie bins in 2009.
This article raises some good points and possibly some unfounded fears and some miss information. In 2009 when the wheelie bins were introduced there was also concern and recycling rates were just under 30% - rates are now over 40% and the service is universally praised. Assuming the decision is made to change rubbish collection, black wheelie bins (for non-recyclable waste) and alternate week collection will be introduced. Based on the many other (67%) authorities who have alternate week collections the recycling is likely to rise to 45%. This will have both financial and environmental benefits. Specific local concerns can and will be addressed as per the introduction of green wheelie bins in 2009. Councillor Patricia Morgan
  • Score: -15

3:13pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Hilary Jones says...

Well, at least that's sorted. But why on earth couldn't the Times have asked the bin question & got it answered in the story? Come to that, why couldn't young Kerry have answered the question instead of sidestepping it completely & rambling on about composting?
Well, at least that's sorted. But why on earth couldn't the Times have asked the bin question & got it answered in the story? Come to that, why couldn't young Kerry have answered the question instead of sidestepping it completely & rambling on about composting? Hilary Jones
  • Score: 7

3:24pm Fri 7 Mar 14

bobby47 says...

Pat, My fears that my black rubbish sacks will be ripped to shreds by some rogue member of the animal kingdom are not unfounded and I resent being told that Im worrying myself needlessly.
Only last month, my family and I hid behind the sofa to avoid paying the milkman so that we could purchase a small chicken. After we'd cooked this bird, stripped it of all its meat and crispy flesh, we placed the stinking carcus into the aforementioned black plastic sack and the following morning I raced downstairs to find that the bag had been ripped and the carcus was strewn all over my drive.
The facts in this case speak for themselves. Some creature or human, driven by hunger or an odd urge to find out what we were throwing away, got into my bag and pulled the carcus out, thus causing me to sweep up the mess.
I respectfully refer you back to my original post and repeat that I ain't putting up with this any longer. When I put a black sack out, it stays out and that's my view on this subject.
Pat, My fears that my black rubbish sacks will be ripped to shreds by some rogue member of the animal kingdom are not unfounded and I resent being told that Im worrying myself needlessly. Only last month, my family and I hid behind the sofa to avoid paying the milkman so that we could purchase a small chicken. After we'd cooked this bird, stripped it of all its meat and crispy flesh, we placed the stinking carcus into the aforementioned black plastic sack and the following morning I raced downstairs to find that the bag had been ripped and the carcus was strewn all over my drive. The facts in this case speak for themselves. Some creature or human, driven by hunger or an odd urge to find out what we were throwing away, got into my bag and pulled the carcus out, thus causing me to sweep up the mess. I respectfully refer you back to my original post and repeat that I ain't putting up with this any longer. When I put a black sack out, it stays out and that's my view on this subject. bobby47
  • Score: 10

4:15pm Fri 7 Mar 14

ARogers says...

I think this idea is absolutely gross! A week's worth of garbage for a family can fit in a bin, but 2 weeks? OMG! It will be all over! And smelly? Wow, you would be able to smell the town from a mile away. You will have to give everyone another bin, no question about it. Your idea about everyone composting is ludicrous and I would have been embarrassed to put that quote in my article.
I think this idea is absolutely gross! A week's worth of garbage for a family can fit in a bin, but 2 weeks? OMG! It will be all over! And smelly? Wow, you would be able to smell the town from a mile away. You will have to give everyone another bin, no question about it. Your idea about everyone composting is ludicrous and I would have been embarrassed to put that quote in my article. ARogers
  • Score: 7

4:15pm Fri 7 Mar 14

dippyhippy says...

Pat, do you live on a terraced street, with extremely poor, if any, rear access to your property??
Would you like to see the street where you live liberally sprinkled with black and green wheelie bins??
They are an incredibly ugly site!!
I absolutely appreciate the need to save money. Let's see you stop wasting it first.
There are three news stories this week, concerning the huge sums of cash that the council have, and continue to throw, at Hereford Futures.
If you stemmed the flow of cash to companies like this, there may be a little more left in the kitty.
I would accept fortnightly bin collections without so much as a murmur, if I thought the money saved would be spent on adult social care, or childrens services (you remember childrens services don't you, very bad OFSTED report, failed in every area) however, its a bitter pill to swallow for many, when we know that such obscene amounts of money are still being frittered away.
Sort it out !!
Pat, do you live on a terraced street, with extremely poor, if any, rear access to your property?? Would you like to see the street where you live liberally sprinkled with black and green wheelie bins?? They are an incredibly ugly site!! I absolutely appreciate the need to save money. Let's see you stop wasting it first. There are three news stories this week, concerning the huge sums of cash that the council have, and continue to throw, at Hereford Futures. If you stemmed the flow of cash to companies like this, there may be a little more left in the kitty. I would accept fortnightly bin collections without so much as a murmur, if I thought the money saved would be spent on adult social care, or childrens services (you remember childrens services don't you, very bad OFSTED report, failed in every area) however, its a bitter pill to swallow for many, when we know that such obscene amounts of money are still being frittered away. Sort it out !! dippyhippy
  • Score: 20

4:25pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Councillor Patricia Morgan says...

Bobby47
Assuming this decision is made you will be provided with a black wheelie bin for non recyclables. Compost bins are the best method of disposal for food waste but this is not always practical. The black wheelie bin should stop the problems that you mention. I hope this is helpful.
Bobby47 Assuming this decision is made you will be provided with a black wheelie bin for non recyclables. Compost bins are the best method of disposal for food waste but this is not always practical. The black wheelie bin should stop the problems that you mention. I hope this is helpful. Councillor Patricia Morgan
  • Score: -9

4:41pm Fri 7 Mar 14

silentbull2 says...

Bobby is right, wheelie bins are ugly!!!
And you're thinking of giving us a black one to go by the side of the green one we should already got?
And also you're expecting people to have room to put them somewhere?? And to have the strength to wheel them??
And how much are theses wheelie bins costing??
The world's gone mad!!!
Bobby is right, wheelie bins are ugly!!! And you're thinking of giving us a black one to go by the side of the green one we should already got? And also you're expecting people to have room to put them somewhere?? And to have the strength to wheel them?? And how much are theses wheelie bins costing?? The world's gone mad!!! silentbull2
  • Score: 8

4:43pm Fri 7 Mar 14

dippyhippy says...

Heavens above Bobby!
You are honoured - a personal reply!!

What about all the other points raised???
Heavens above Bobby! You are honoured - a personal reply!! What about all the other points raised??? dippyhippy
  • Score: 9

6:53pm Fri 7 Mar 14

bobby47 says...

Hello Patricia. Good for you! It's no easy thing to jump into this bear pit. You'll have noticed that there's a great deal of pigswill, codswallop and utter drivel transmitted within these pages and the main perpetrator is me. Please don't be put off by this. You post your view here whenever you want and, like your colleague Graham Powell, I think you may come to enjoy expressing yourself and promoting your view on this, that and the other.
As for this issue, can you please explain how we can afford to purchase these wheeled bins, given that we are fiscally knackered and its likely we are going to remain skint for some considerable time to come?
My very warmest regards to you.
Hello Patricia. Good for you! It's no easy thing to jump into this bear pit. You'll have noticed that there's a great deal of pigswill, codswallop and utter drivel transmitted within these pages and the main perpetrator is me. Please don't be put off by this. You post your view here whenever you want and, like your colleague Graham Powell, I think you may come to enjoy expressing yourself and promoting your view on this, that and the other. As for this issue, can you please explain how we can afford to purchase these wheeled bins, given that we are fiscally knackered and its likely we are going to remain skint for some considerable time to come? My very warmest regards to you. bobby47
  • Score: 5

6:56pm Fri 7 Mar 14

TwoWheelsGood says...

I note the Councillor appears to be employing a 16 year old intern to write her speeches - 'miss information' indeed. Bobby47 was talking about his weekly chicken carcass - the remains of which should absolutely NOT be put in a composter. Compost bins are the best method of disposal for _vegetable_ food waste, assuming of course you have a garden to put one in and enough space to dispose of the compost from time to time.
I note the Councillor appears to be employing a 16 year old intern to write her speeches - 'miss information' indeed. Bobby47 was talking about his weekly chicken carcass - the remains of which should absolutely NOT be put in a composter. Compost bins are the best method of disposal for _vegetable_ food waste, assuming of course you have a garden to put one in and enough space to dispose of the compost from time to time. TwoWheelsGood
  • Score: 8

8:42pm Fri 7 Mar 14

mizza21 says...

Well, 2 things occur to me immediately.

TwoWheels, I have composted a badger, ducks and many chicken carcasses before.

Whilst I agree with you that food waste can attract rodents and creates a proper 'pen and ink' this should be seen as a boon not a problem.
I use an air rifle fitted with a day scope and a night vision adaptor using hollow point pellets for this purpose.
One can end up after an hour or two with several of these rodents to skewer and roast on a fire.
Lovely with a nice barbecue sauce or minty marinade.
Well, 2 things occur to me immediately. TwoWheels, I have composted a badger, ducks and many chicken carcasses before. Whilst I agree with you that food waste can attract rodents and creates a proper 'pen and ink' this should be seen as a boon not a problem. I use an air rifle fitted with a day scope and a night vision adaptor using hollow point pellets for this purpose. One can end up after an hour or two with several of these rodents to skewer and roast on a fire. Lovely with a nice barbecue sauce or minty marinade. mizza21
  • Score: -1

10:05pm Fri 7 Mar 14

jd1950 says...

o please everyone, you know we are all in the same boat!, I mean together, the reason they come up with these ideas, is that there are no reasons, get it?
o please everyone, you know we are all in the same boat!, I mean together, the reason they come up with these ideas, is that there are no reasons, get it? jd1950
  • Score: 0

10:36pm Fri 7 Mar 14

ad47uk says...

Councillor Patricia Morgan wrote:
This article raises some good points and possibly some unfounded fears and some miss information. In 2009 when the wheelie bins were introduced there was also concern and recycling rates were just under 30% - rates are now over 40% and the service is universally praised. Assuming the decision is made to change rubbish collection, black wheelie bins (for non-recyclable waste) and alternate week collection will be introduced. Based on the many other (67%) authorities who have alternate week collections the recycling is likely to rise to 45%. This will have both financial and environmental benefits. Specific local concerns can and will be addressed as per the introduction of green wheelie bins in 2009.
I don't recycle, never have, I don't see the point. I can stuff my rubbish in one black bag a week, sometimes It can take me two weeks to fill a bag.
I would also like to know where do you think some people have the room for another Wheeled bin, are we going to end up like other cities where bins are lined up on the street?

I refused to have a green bin, I even had a letter shoved though my door saying that I could have a green bin, even though I have steps and the person who stuck the leaflet in my letter box would have known that since she would have walked down them. It was a she,

I am pretty sure the council have not thought this through, if you are picking up peoples rubbish once a fortnight, then surly that means you are still picking up the same amount of rubbish, so you will still need the same amount of vehicles.

the problem is the council just see one side, oh lets save some money and and still hype up the council tax, then we can hype up our wages and expenses as well.
Typical politicians and that is why, when they come to my door asking for my vote, i will tell them where to go.
Not worth voting for.
[quote][p][bold]Councillor Patricia Morgan[/bold] wrote: This article raises some good points and possibly some unfounded fears and some miss information. In 2009 when the wheelie bins were introduced there was also concern and recycling rates were just under 30% - rates are now over 40% and the service is universally praised. Assuming the decision is made to change rubbish collection, black wheelie bins (for non-recyclable waste) and alternate week collection will be introduced. Based on the many other (67%) authorities who have alternate week collections the recycling is likely to rise to 45%. This will have both financial and environmental benefits. Specific local concerns can and will be addressed as per the introduction of green wheelie bins in 2009.[/p][/quote]I don't recycle, never have, I don't see the point. I can stuff my rubbish in one black bag a week, sometimes It can take me two weeks to fill a bag. I would also like to know where do you think some people have the room for another Wheeled bin, are we going to end up like other cities where bins are lined up on the street? I refused to have a green bin, I even had a letter shoved though my door saying that I could have a green bin, even though I have steps and the person who stuck the leaflet in my letter box would have known that since she would have walked down them. It was a she, I am pretty sure the council have not thought this through, if you are picking up peoples rubbish once a fortnight, then surly that means you are still picking up the same amount of rubbish, so you will still need the same amount of vehicles. the problem is the council just see one side, oh lets save some money and and still hype up the council tax, then we can hype up our wages and expenses as well. Typical politicians and that is why, when they come to my door asking for my vote, i will tell them where to go. Not worth voting for. ad47uk
  • Score: 1

10:38pm Fri 7 Mar 14

ad47uk says...

ARogers wrote:
I think this idea is absolutely gross! A week's worth of garbage for a family can fit in a bin, but 2 weeks? OMG! It will be all over! And smelly? Wow, you would be able to smell the town from a mile away. You will have to give everyone another bin, no question about it. Your idea about everyone composting is ludicrous and I would have been embarrassed to put that quote in my article.
You can smell the town a mile away, in fact more, it is from some chicken factory.
[quote][p][bold]ARogers[/bold] wrote: I think this idea is absolutely gross! A week's worth of garbage for a family can fit in a bin, but 2 weeks? OMG! It will be all over! And smelly? Wow, you would be able to smell the town from a mile away. You will have to give everyone another bin, no question about it. Your idea about everyone composting is ludicrous and I would have been embarrassed to put that quote in my article.[/p][/quote]You can smell the town a mile away, in fact more, it is from some chicken factory. ad47uk
  • Score: 3

11:27pm Fri 7 Mar 14

RogerLFC says...

I will add my personal perspective. I recycle so much rubbish that I have to stand in my wheelie bin and ram down the stuff whilst standing on a rubber bin lid prior to the collection. The black sack is a last resort for me as it is going to landfill which I detest. I often stretch the sack out to two weeks. I have got two compost bins ~ but I have a garden and I know full well that other people have no garden to do that. I suppose the bottom line is that cuts are proposed but the Council Tax is going up. Pay more. Get less!
I will add my personal perspective. I recycle so much rubbish that I have to stand in my wheelie bin and ram down the stuff whilst standing on a rubber bin lid prior to the collection. The black sack is a last resort for me as it is going to landfill which I detest. I often stretch the sack out to two weeks. I have got two compost bins ~ but I have a garden and I know full well that other people have no garden to do that. I suppose the bottom line is that cuts are proposed but the Council Tax is going up. Pay more. Get less! RogerLFC
  • Score: 7

9:21am Sat 8 Mar 14

WYSIATI says...

The way people choose to managetheir waste and their old people can tell you a lot. In some countries people carefully segregate waste, recycle upwards of 70 per cent, would not dream of littering and would expect to be fined if they left black bags on the street on the wrong day, let alone for days or weeks. Everyone contributes to keep in the place clean and civilised. The local authority keeps its part of the deal and collects and disposes efficiently and on time.

In some places people expect to throw out anything and everything, any time, any amount and so long as it out of their house/car/garden that's fine. Someone else should come and get it (might be the council, might be someone who can't stand th mess).

Oddly similar in choices about treating old people a treasured resource that's respected by society or an expensive nuisance hide away and expect Someone to "look after".

We need to change, there is not enough money, there is not enough recycling, there is too much waste. Everyone is a member of society and has a responsibility. No need to produce so much waste many easy things to do to cut down, and save some money while we are at it.

In some areas wheelie bins will be fine, in others perhaps we could put in the large wheeled bins at places in the street which you see in so many cities. Responsible citizens routinely take the black bags to those, no rats, safe from marauding bears and Bobby47, and society sets rules to work within (no bags left out to be torn up). Probably stop short of Brussels where you get a bug fine if your waste is out even a few hours too early...
The way people choose to managetheir waste and their old people can tell you a lot. In some countries people carefully segregate waste, recycle upwards of 70 per cent, would not dream of littering and would expect to be fined if they left black bags on the street on the wrong day, let alone for days or weeks. Everyone contributes to keep in the place clean and civilised. The local authority keeps its part of the deal and collects and disposes efficiently and on time. In some places people expect to throw out anything and everything, any time, any amount and so long as it out of their house/car/garden that's fine. Someone else should come and get it (might be the council, might be someone who can't stand th mess). Oddly similar in choices about treating old people a treasured resource that's respected by society or an expensive nuisance hide away and expect Someone to "look after". We need to change, there is not enough money, there is not enough recycling, there is too much waste. Everyone is a member of society and has a responsibility. No need to produce so much waste many easy things to do to cut down, and save some money while we are at it. In some areas wheelie bins will be fine, in others perhaps we could put in the large wheeled bins at places in the street which you see in so many cities. Responsible citizens routinely take the black bags to those, no rats, safe from marauding bears and Bobby47, and society sets rules to work within (no bags left out to be torn up). Probably stop short of Brussels where you get a bug fine if your waste is out even a few hours too early... WYSIATI
  • Score: 6

12:59pm Sat 8 Mar 14

dodger3 says...

Just got back from a two day break in North Wales-roads were pretty pot-hole free. Also lots of highway work being carried out-have they got more money than
us?.
Just got back from a two day break in North Wales-roads were pretty pot-hole free. Also lots of highway work being carried out-have they got more money than us?. dodger3
  • Score: 4

1:10pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Hereford Voice says...

I drive around the country during the week and there is nothing worse than street after street of wheelie bins, on top of that, do people not keep them clean? I clean mine out every few months with a bucket of hot water and bleach, some peoples bins are disgusting! Maybe it's just me...
I drive around the country during the week and there is nothing worse than street after street of wheelie bins, on top of that, do people not keep them clean? I clean mine out every few months with a bucket of hot water and bleach, some peoples bins are disgusting! Maybe it's just me... Hereford Voice
  • Score: 4

1:55pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Ubique1 says...

I might not agree with all the comments above , however prior to moving back to the City I lived and worked in South Devon . In 1995 Torbay Council issued all suitable houses , and I repeat , all suitable houses a green ( recycling ) and a black wheelie bin ( household rubbish ) . Theses bins were emptied every fortnight . I can honestly say that we never had any real problem with them . I washed them out once a month . Having said that , I can recall that I put any turkey or chicken carcass into a carrier bag and dumped it into a Council Waste bin if it was a week or so before my next collection .- other than that I did to have any issues with them. So it works for me . I know that not all houses are suitable for one , let alone two wheelie bins .
If they go ahead and issue a black wheelie bin lets hope it's made in the UK ,not Germany!
I might not agree with all the comments above , however prior to moving back to the City I lived and worked in South Devon . In 1995 Torbay Council issued all suitable houses , and I repeat , all suitable houses a green ( recycling ) and a black wheelie bin ( household rubbish ) . Theses bins were emptied every fortnight . I can honestly say that we never had any real problem with them . I washed them out once a month . Having said that , I can recall that I put any turkey or chicken carcass into a carrier bag and dumped it into a Council Waste bin if it was a week or so before my next collection .- other than that I did to have any issues with them. So it works for me . I know that not all houses are suitable for one , let alone two wheelie bins . If they go ahead and issue a black wheelie bin lets hope it's made in the UK ,not Germany! Ubique1
  • Score: 3

4:04pm Sun 9 Mar 14

A.Non01 says...

When is the next council election? I for one cannot wait for my opportunity to help kick out the current administration. They are a disgrace and are dragging our fine city back into the dark ages.

Thanks to this lot we have a shiny new and expensive shopping center and an empty high street.

Thanks to this lot nobody wants to visit our city anymore anyway because our hospitality is appalling - we can't even provide them with toilets to use.

Thanks to this lots mis-management our roads are in a shocking state and please don't tell me this is down to the recent poor weather because they have been getting worse for several years now.

Now they want to pollute our streets with uncollected trash and populate our estates with rats and other vermin.

Herefordshire Council you are a disgrace, you serve nothing but your own self interest and it's time we showed every single one of you to the door!
When is the next council election? I for one cannot wait for my opportunity to help kick out the current administration. They are a disgrace and are dragging our fine city back into the dark ages. Thanks to this lot we have a shiny new and expensive shopping center and an empty high street. Thanks to this lot nobody wants to visit our city anymore anyway because our hospitality is appalling - we can't even provide them with toilets to use. Thanks to this lots mis-management our roads are in a shocking state and please don't tell me this is down to the recent poor weather because they have been getting worse for several years now. Now they want to pollute our streets with uncollected trash and populate our estates with rats and other vermin. Herefordshire Council you are a disgrace, you serve nothing but your own self interest and it's time we showed every single one of you to the door! A.Non01
  • Score: 10

5:50pm Sun 9 Mar 14

megilleland says...

I put my recycling and waste out every two weeks already and compost the rest, but then there are only two of us. For families it is going to be a problem. Maybe the council could spend some time walking around the streets and see the amount of rubbish that blights our city. Also the verges along our highways are a disgrace, but the litter will soon disappear under the grass, only to be thrown up again when it is cut. Talking of saving money - how much is this incinerator chosen by the council going to cost us?
I put my recycling and waste out every two weeks already and compost the rest, but then there are only two of us. For families it is going to be a problem. Maybe the council could spend some time walking around the streets and see the amount of rubbish that blights our city. Also the verges along our highways are a disgrace, but the litter will soon disappear under the grass, only to be thrown up again when it is cut. Talking of saving money - how much is this incinerator chosen by the council going to cost us? megilleland
  • Score: 7

6:27am Mon 10 Mar 14

B the B says...

I too am against fortnightly collections, black wheelie bins are unsightly and not suitable for all properties but they will be rat proof, the problem will be if the bins are not big enough. The council will not take bags so what happens if you produce more waste than the bins will hold? fly tipping that's what and more of it. Also regarding composting, this activity while being good for the environment etc is also one of the main causes of rat infestation in populated areas so unless the compost bins are mounted on say a concrete slab, rats will burrow under and we will see an increase in rats. Now the council wont treat for rats unless someone pays, so your not going to pay for your neighbours rat treatment, what then, report them? neighbour dispute started.
I too am against fortnightly collections, black wheelie bins are unsightly and not suitable for all properties but they will be rat proof, the problem will be if the bins are not big enough. The council will not take bags so what happens if you produce more waste than the bins will hold? fly tipping that's what and more of it. Also regarding composting, this activity while being good for the environment etc is also one of the main causes of rat infestation in populated areas so unless the compost bins are mounted on say a concrete slab, rats will burrow under and we will see an increase in rats. Now the council wont treat for rats unless someone pays, so your not going to pay for your neighbours rat treatment, what then, report them? neighbour dispute started. B the B
  • Score: 4

11:56am Tue 11 Mar 14

allhandstothedeck says...

You have to congratulate many of the people of Hereford , they are practising already with the fortnightly collections. I have seen black ( torn bags, bobby47 ) pilled high , left for days outside their homes. Its a complete eyesore. Just for good measure the odd mattress and broken TV can been seen also. It can only get worse.
Its not everyone who has the space to store extra bins, or black bags.
I'm off to apply for the job as the pied piper , we are going to need him /her soon.
You have to congratulate many of the people of Hereford , they are practising already with the fortnightly collections. I have seen black ( torn bags, bobby47 ) pilled high , left for days outside their homes. Its a complete eyesore. Just for good measure the odd mattress and broken TV can been seen also. It can only get worse. Its not everyone who has the space to store extra bins, or black bags. I'm off to apply for the job as the pied piper , we are going to need him /her soon. allhandstothedeck
  • Score: 2

1:19pm Wed 12 Mar 14

YesButNo says...

Another suggestion to keep the amount of domestic waste down. How about taking all the bags and packaging rubbish back to the supermarkets the next time you go shopping?
Another suggestion to keep the amount of domestic waste down. How about taking all the bags and packaging rubbish back to the supermarkets the next time you go shopping? YesButNo
  • Score: 3

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