Council leader calls on Hereford Times to be more positive

Council leader calls on Hereford Times to be more positive

Council leader calls on Hereford Times to be more positive

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THE leader of Herefordshire Council has accused this paper of not supporting a company set-up by the council to save it money.

A cabinet discussion yesterday about joint venture firm Hoople, which itself needs to find savings of more than £1 million, turned into an attack on the Hereford Times for being too negative in its coverage of the company.

The council's own communications department was also told by one backbench councillor, who is also a Hoople board member, that its press releases could be more positive.

"If the Hereford Times sees the value of Hoople it would be great," said Cllr Carl Attwood, the Independent member for Hope End.

He said there were currently "too many question marks" in this paper's coverage which yesterday ran a story saying Hoople could split in two.

Council leader Tony Johnson agreed saying; "A positive from the Hereford Times. That would be a first."

The future for Hoople is seen as two entities - one delivering specific services directly to the council and the other delivering a range of commercial services to the market.

Cabinet members agreed to back the council drawing up a business case and 'implementation plan' with Hoople and its board that allows the split.

The council's deputy leader Cllr Philip Price said Hoople has saved the council significant sums of money since it was established in 2011.

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9:53am Fri 1 Aug 14

dplcv37 says...

Coming from someone who is playing a major part in demolishing the county and causing so much negativity himself, does Tony support the local people he is supposed to be serving?.....No.

Still you only have 10 months left Tony so make the most of it!!
Coming from someone who is playing a major part in demolishing the county and causing so much negativity himself, does Tony support the local people he is supposed to be serving?.....No. Still you only have 10 months left Tony so make the most of it!! dplcv37
  • Score: 36

9:57am Fri 1 Aug 14

NOT CONVINCED says...

FAO Council Leader - try doing something positive for the people of this city and county
FAO Council Leader - try doing something positive for the people of this city and county NOT CONVINCED
  • Score: 34

11:17am Fri 1 Aug 14

yokelyokel says...

How about the HT looking, in a non-negative way onto why the council paid large sums to Ameo Ltd, and Hoople to Insight4

And then work out the connections to Mike Dearing.
How about the HT looking, in a non-negative way onto why the council paid large sums to Ameo Ltd, and Hoople to Insight4 And then work out the connections to Mike Dearing. yokelyokel
  • Score: 34

11:20am Fri 1 Aug 14

redyoll says...

HT are merely reflecting the negativity felt by the county of Herefordshire which for some reason the Conservative led Council have failed to recognise. The elderly the vulnerable have not felt any positivity over the last 12 months. Just to look around the county and the city does not encourage a positive attitude - it is drab dirty and uncared for. The one positive some might say (I am not one) is the shopping complex but time will tell on that one. Herefordshire Council is now running at a an all time high level of debt and despite advice will keep increasing that level of debt on projects that the people of Hereford do not want or feel necessary. HT is the people's mouthpiece take heed.
HT are merely reflecting the negativity felt by the county of Herefordshire which for some reason the Conservative led Council have failed to recognise. The elderly the vulnerable have not felt any positivity over the last 12 months. Just to look around the county and the city does not encourage a positive attitude - it is drab dirty and uncared for. The one positive some might say (I am not one) is the shopping complex but time will tell on that one. Herefordshire Council is now running at a an all time high level of debt and despite advice will keep increasing that level of debt on projects that the people of Hereford do not want or feel necessary. HT is the people's mouthpiece take heed. redyoll
  • Score: 31

11:24am Fri 1 Aug 14

Ivor P says...

Pot kettle Black?
Pot kettle Black? Ivor P
  • Score: 18

11:29am Fri 1 Aug 14

littlewhitebull says...

Personally, I have not detected this negative attitude from the Hereford Times against the council or Hoople.
I was under the impression that our local newspaper was just reporting the facts. The comments by other posters have summed up the situation well, in my humble opinion.
Personally, I have not detected this negative attitude from the Hereford Times against the council or Hoople. I was under the impression that our local newspaper was just reporting the facts. The comments by other posters have summed up the situation well, in my humble opinion. littlewhitebull
  • Score: 40

12:17pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Mjölnir says...

Just who is this idiot that runs the council? Cuts right,left and center. Grass verges that look disgusting failed enterprises and loss of huge amounts of money etc etc and this imbecile still gets paid a bucket load of cash. Pity his wages are not performance related of the bucket might be full of something a little more smelly.
Just who is this idiot that runs the council? Cuts right,left and center. Grass verges that look disgusting failed enterprises and loss of huge amounts of money etc etc and this imbecile still gets paid a bucket load of cash. Pity his wages are not performance related of the bucket might be full of something a little more smelly. Mjölnir
  • Score: 30

1:51pm Fri 1 Aug 14

dippyhippy says...

Praise to Bill Tanner, and his diligent reporting! If it's making folk feel a tad uncomfortable, then you're doing a great job!

Anyway, what's the leader of Herefordshire Council doing buying The Hereford Times?? He doesn't even reside in this county

If nothing else, I would hope that every single person in this county who is eligible to vote, goes out next May and does just that. Surely we've all endured more than enough? They quite simply have to go.
Praise to Bill Tanner, and his diligent reporting! If it's making folk feel a tad uncomfortable, then you're doing a great job! Anyway, what's the leader of Herefordshire Council doing buying The Hereford Times?? He doesn't even reside in this county If nothing else, I would hope that every single person in this county who is eligible to vote, goes out next May and does just that. Surely we've all endured more than enough? They quite simply have to go. dippyhippy
  • Score: 41

1:53pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Herefordian07 says...

Are we beginning to see Council leader Tony Johnson beginning to grow a spine at last? Surely not with the elections looming - he wouldn't dare go on the attack especially at our beloved HT, perhaps the excellent investigative journalism is uncovering the cloak and dagger antics of this administration and getting too close to the truth, no small wonder Johnson wants them to look through a pair of his rose tinted spectacles to see that everything in the garden is lovely. Well done HT keep up the good show at least you support and respect the people of this county unlike the Brockington cronies who have their snouts well and truly in the trough gorging away a the free slop!
Are we beginning to see Council leader Tony Johnson beginning to grow a spine at last? Surely not with the elections looming - he wouldn't dare go on the attack especially at our beloved HT, perhaps the excellent investigative journalism is uncovering the cloak and dagger antics of this administration and getting too close to the truth, no small wonder Johnson wants them to look through a pair of his rose tinted spectacles to see that everything in the garden is lovely. Well done HT keep up the good show at least you support and respect the people of this county unlike the Brockington cronies who have their snouts well and truly in the trough gorging away a the free slop! Herefordian07
  • Score: 22

2:02pm Fri 1 Aug 14

dippyhippy says...

Ode To Our Leader.

There once was a leader called Tony,
Who spouted a load of baloney,
But reporter, Bill Tanner,
In a diligent manner,
Separated the truth from the phoney!
Ode To Our Leader. There once was a leader called Tony, Who spouted a load of baloney, But reporter, Bill Tanner, In a diligent manner, Separated the truth from the phoney! dippyhippy
  • Score: 38

2:17pm Fri 1 Aug 14

flamboyant says...

Lol good one Dippy!

If the Council think they're slated by the a Hereford Times they should visit Hereford Voice!

Maybe we are being a bit unfair they are after all only doing what's best for the public, at least that's what they say!!
Lol good one Dippy! If the Council think they're slated by the a Hereford Times they should visit Hereford Voice! Maybe we are being a bit unfair they are after all only doing what's best for the public, at least that's what they say!! flamboyant
  • Score: 14

2:24pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Growl Tiger says...

I think the leaders of these bad councils have all been on a retreat to cloud cuckoo land. The leader of Wirral Council (one of Private Eye’s Rotten Boroughs) is now spouting on about how he and the CEO have turned the culture around in record time and how everything is sunshine and roses. In reality nothing has changed.

Services for the vulnerable are being cut, but the Council could still find £17,320 last week to provide free tickets for councillors and senior officers to attend The Open Golf Championship each day. Of course the propaganda says they needed to attend to promote and showcase Wirral to potential investors, but does it need 55 of them each day to do that?
I think the leaders of these bad councils have all been on a retreat to cloud cuckoo land. The leader of Wirral Council (one of Private Eye’s Rotten Boroughs) is now spouting on about how he and the CEO have turned the culture around in record time and how everything is sunshine and roses. In reality nothing has changed. Services for the vulnerable are being cut, but the Council could still find £17,320 last week to provide free tickets for councillors and senior officers to attend The Open Golf Championship each day. Of course the propaganda says they needed to attend to promote and showcase Wirral to potential investors, but does it need 55 of them each day to do that? Growl Tiger
  • Score: 23

2:55pm Fri 1 Aug 14

megilleland says...

flamboyant wrote:
Lol good one Dippy!

If the Council think they're slated by the a Hereford Times they should visit Hereford Voice!

Maybe we are being a bit unfair they are after all only doing what's best for the public, at least that's what they say!!
No, they are doing what's best for their party and members in Parliament. They are only doing their bidding.
[quote][p][bold]flamboyant[/bold] wrote: Lol good one Dippy! If the Council think they're slated by the a Hereford Times they should visit Hereford Voice! Maybe we are being a bit unfair they are after all only doing what's best for the public, at least that's what they say!![/p][/quote]No, they are doing what's best for their party and members in Parliament. They are only doing their bidding. megilleland
  • Score: 4

4:48pm Fri 1 Aug 14

littlewhitebull says...

dippyhippy wrote:
Ode To Our Leader.

There once was a leader called Tony,
Who spouted a load of baloney,
But reporter, Bill Tanner,
In a diligent manner,
Separated the truth from the phoney!
Brilliant poem, dippyhippy.
Thank God you are back. You've been missed.
[quote][p][bold]dippyhippy[/bold] wrote: Ode To Our Leader. There once was a leader called Tony, Who spouted a load of baloney, But reporter, Bill Tanner, In a diligent manner, Separated the truth from the phoney![/p][/quote]Brilliant poem, dippyhippy. Thank God you are back. You've been missed. littlewhitebull
  • Score: 14

6:21pm Fri 1 Aug 14

fmrbill says...

some advice for johnson and his cling ons. I was slways told if ure in a hole STOP DIGGING !!!! Anyway as stated b4 only another 10 mths to go then this arrogrant self praising lot of coucillors can be ousted. its our duty to get them out to save this county from this what appears to be a secret squirrel organisation instead of carrot crunchers from a most rural and beautiful county apart from Hereford city which now looks a TIP
some advice for johnson and his cling ons. I was slways told if ure in a hole STOP DIGGING !!!! Anyway as stated b4 only another 10 mths to go then this arrogrant self praising lot of coucillors can be ousted. its our duty to get them out to save this county from this what appears to be a secret squirrel organisation instead of carrot crunchers from a most rural and beautiful county apart from Hereford city which now looks a TIP fmrbill
  • Score: 12

7:26pm Fri 1 Aug 14

dippyhippy says...

Evening Littlewhitebull!

Thanks for that! The Mendacious Oddities are mostly residing at Hereford Voice, why don't you sign up? It would be great to hear from you, Wysiati, Mizza and the other "old hands".

Plenty of discussions and debates about the latest council fiasco's and debarcles.......and with an election looming, it's more important than ever before to make your feelings known!

Whatever happens.....this lot have to go, if we are to stand any chance of reclaiming Our beautiful County!
We have tolerated too much for too long. The time has come for change - and that change can't come soon enough for me!
Evening Littlewhitebull! Thanks for that! The Mendacious Oddities are mostly residing at Hereford Voice, why don't you sign up? It would be great to hear from you, Wysiati, Mizza and the other "old hands". Plenty of discussions and debates about the latest council fiasco's and debarcles.......and with an election looming, it's more important than ever before to make your feelings known! Whatever happens.....this lot have to go, if we are to stand any chance of reclaiming Our beautiful County! We have tolerated too much for too long. The time has come for change - and that change can't come soon enough for me! dippyhippy
  • Score: 16

7:35pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Duane Stringer says...

Well. maybe he has a point - look at all the negative comments on here about Hoople & the Council. I mean, it's almost like people think the media is an ouitlet for the general public to air their views in a fair, democratic manner. When cearly they should be voiced in a locked room, away from observers and dissenters, and be rewarded by massive salaries from the public purse whilst public services are left to rot. How much did WE pay Cllr Johnson for these comments?

Opinions are only for the powerful. Long Live King Tony!!
Well. maybe he has a point - look at all the negative comments on here about Hoople & the Council. I mean, it's almost like people think the media is an ouitlet for the general public to air their views in a fair, democratic manner. When cearly they should be voiced in a locked room, away from observers and dissenters, and be rewarded by massive salaries from the public purse whilst public services are left to rot. How much did WE pay Cllr Johnson for these comments? Opinions are only for the powerful. Long Live King Tony!! Duane Stringer
  • Score: -4

7:55pm Fri 1 Aug 14

bobby47 says...

Ask yourselves this question. Why have the hierarchy of this failed and loathsome Council Cabinet chosen this moment to attack the Hereford Times and suggest that from hereon we should be spoonfed different news that paints this arms length company Hoople in a different and more positive light. Why?
Well the answer is that they know that at this present moment in time our media, both locally and nationally is in a vulnerable position and papers like the Hereford Times are understandably frightened that they print something that could be challenged resulting in a serious sanction. The Council know that the Hereford Times doesn't want or need to fight a war and so they are using the current political instability that exists between the media and the public and playing this to their advantage.
Quite simply the Council leadership are saying, we don't like the news you are feeding these idiots. Give them different news. Give them news that we like and give them news that favours our creation of this 'Arms Length Company and stop giving them news that we don't like.
In short, they wish to control the news, shape your opinion by censoring and paint you a shiny happy clappy picture that has you shouting, 'hallelujah. Just the thing we want. A Company called Hoople that's saving us millions'.
Course the reality is very different. If the Hereford Times print accurate reports that imply Hoople is a dog with fleas, their reporting staff think the arrangement between the Council and Hoople is worthy of some examination and you, me and anyone else that can spot a dog with fleas believe Hoople is a drain on our resources and it ain't saving us millions, well, there's only one conclusion. Either we the readership and the Hereford Times are wrong or the Council leadership are. Whichever way you cut and dress this, Hoople is now fast becoming a shining beacon of division between us and them.
I've read every single thing produced by the Hereford Times that relates to Hoople and not once, ever, have the reporting staff printed a conclusion to their findings. They've simply reported the facts and allowed us all to draw our own conclusions. That's news. That's reporting the news and Mr Johnson and his colleagues should tread carefully when it comes to trying to influence the tone and hue of the news we are delivered.
I've many sources within Hoople and the Council and without exception they moreorless say one single thing. 'The whole idea of creating Hoople was a monumental mistake. We'd like to be returned to the Council and be allowed to do our jobs, help deliver our much cherished public services and be unhindered by the incompetent bungling operationally lightweight idiots who's only interest is in themselves and the position they occupy upon the gravey train.
Me? If I were given half a chance I'd drown this beast of burden in my bath tub, send all our frontline staff back to the Council and I'd save us all millions by getting rid of the blue sky thinking, gimmick creating suits who've got a stranglehold on all our lives.
Hoople should never have been created. Hereford Futures should never have been gifted life and we are all millions of pounds worse off because of their birth to our local economy. I say, 'cut the cord now. Set Hoople adrift and let it drown before more money is wasted on this dog of an arrangement that sees us all feeding this bureaucratic monster that shows no sign of being satisfied with its trough of food.
Ask yourselves this question. Why have the hierarchy of this failed and loathsome Council Cabinet chosen this moment to attack the Hereford Times and suggest that from hereon we should be spoonfed different news that paints this arms length company Hoople in a different and more positive light. Why? Well the answer is that they know that at this present moment in time our media, both locally and nationally is in a vulnerable position and papers like the Hereford Times are understandably frightened that they print something that could be challenged resulting in a serious sanction. The Council know that the Hereford Times doesn't want or need to fight a war and so they are using the current political instability that exists between the media and the public and playing this to their advantage. Quite simply the Council leadership are saying, we don't like the news you are feeding these idiots. Give them different news. Give them news that we like and give them news that favours our creation of this 'Arms Length Company and stop giving them news that we don't like. In short, they wish to control the news, shape your opinion by censoring and paint you a shiny happy clappy picture that has you shouting, 'hallelujah. Just the thing we want. A Company called Hoople that's saving us millions'. Course the reality is very different. If the Hereford Times print accurate reports that imply Hoople is a dog with fleas, their reporting staff think the arrangement between the Council and Hoople is worthy of some examination and you, me and anyone else that can spot a dog with fleas believe Hoople is a drain on our resources and it ain't saving us millions, well, there's only one conclusion. Either we the readership and the Hereford Times are wrong or the Council leadership are. Whichever way you cut and dress this, Hoople is now fast becoming a shining beacon of division between us and them. I've read every single thing produced by the Hereford Times that relates to Hoople and not once, ever, have the reporting staff printed a conclusion to their findings. They've simply reported the facts and allowed us all to draw our own conclusions. That's news. That's reporting the news and Mr Johnson and his colleagues should tread carefully when it comes to trying to influence the tone and hue of the news we are delivered. I've many sources within Hoople and the Council and without exception they moreorless say one single thing. 'The whole idea of creating Hoople was a monumental mistake. We'd like to be returned to the Council and be allowed to do our jobs, help deliver our much cherished public services and be unhindered by the incompetent bungling operationally lightweight idiots who's only interest is in themselves and the position they occupy upon the gravey train. Me? If I were given half a chance I'd drown this beast of burden in my bath tub, send all our frontline staff back to the Council and I'd save us all millions by getting rid of the blue sky thinking, gimmick creating suits who've got a stranglehold on all our lives. Hoople should never have been created. Hereford Futures should never have been gifted life and we are all millions of pounds worse off because of their birth to our local economy. I say, 'cut the cord now. Set Hoople adrift and let it drown before more money is wasted on this dog of an arrangement that sees us all feeding this bureaucratic monster that shows no sign of being satisfied with its trough of food. bobby47
  • Score: 28

8:09pm Fri 1 Aug 14

dippyhippy says...

Bravo Bobby!

You have said, so eloquently, what so many of us feel.

Will they listen?

Well, as we all know, there's an election looming, so they are keen to say they are - but will they heed the words they hear?

I very much doubt it.
Bravo Bobby! You have said, so eloquently, what so many of us feel. Will they listen? Well, as we all know, there's an election looming, so they are keen to say they are - but will they heed the words they hear? I very much doubt it. dippyhippy
  • Score: 15

8:48pm Fri 1 Aug 14

GertrudeBeach says...

I'd really love to read positive news all the time. Lets face it, living in Hereford can get quite depressing and we don't need to be reminded on what this city has become.
I'd really love to read positive news all the time. Lets face it, living in Hereford can get quite depressing and we don't need to be reminded on what this city has become. GertrudeBeach
  • Score: -6

9:31pm Fri 1 Aug 14

waders217 says...

I know the Hereford Times is good, but portraying Herefordshire Council in a positive light? now that would take some doing.
How arrogant are these people? The Hereford Times just confirms what we all feel about these out of touch, ignorant cretins who only have their own interests at heart.
I know the Hereford Times is good, but portraying Herefordshire Council in a positive light? now that would take some doing. How arrogant are these people? The Hereford Times just confirms what we all feel about these out of touch, ignorant cretins who only have their own interests at heart. waders217
  • Score: 17

6:27am Sat 2 Aug 14

yatman says...

Sounds like you all need to visit a website I found called www.gzunder.com They make chamber pots and dart boards with the faces of politicians on. You can get your local ones as well, just ask #politicalchamberpot
s @gzunder A huge relief.
Sounds like you all need to visit a website I found called www.gzunder.com They make chamber pots and dart boards with the faces of politicians on. You can get your local ones as well, just ask #politicalchamberpot s @gzunder A huge relief. yatman
  • Score: 5

3:07pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Ubique1 says...

Sounds as if reading the truth hurts - well done to the HT - I am fully aware that there has previously been negative comments about the HT - but it appears that the new editor believes in reporting the truth . Thank you - please keep investigating -
Sounds as if reading the truth hurts - well done to the HT - I am fully aware that there has previously been negative comments about the HT - but it appears that the new editor believes in reporting the truth . Thank you - please keep investigating - Ubique1
  • Score: 11

3:09pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Cendrick Smemt says...

I'm not a fan of the HT. There's a lot of provincial rubbish in it and it doesn't cover things that might actually be of interest. A few years ago I submitted a press release on an archaeological discovery in Hereford. Papers in Birmingham and elsewhere ran it, Central News South ran a feature on TV, HT did not give it a mention.

The HT also did very little to support Hereford United last season as the fans fought to raise money against the odds (and succeeded). It could have made an enormous, positive difference by creating awareness, but chose to moan about how liquidation was a foregone conclusion in the editorials. The club survived, in spite of this, but would be in a very different position now if the HT hadn't been so negative.
I'm not a fan of the HT. There's a lot of provincial rubbish in it and it doesn't cover things that might actually be of interest. A few years ago I submitted a press release on an archaeological discovery in Hereford. Papers in Birmingham and elsewhere ran it, Central News South ran a feature on TV, HT did not give it a mention. The HT also did very little to support Hereford United last season as the fans fought to raise money against the odds (and succeeded). It could have made an enormous, positive difference by creating awareness, but chose to moan about how liquidation was a foregone conclusion in the editorials. The club survived, in spite of this, but would be in a very different position now if the HT hadn't been so negative. Cendrick Smemt
  • Score: 0

3:20pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Ubique1 says...

Below is the email of the new editor of the HT - I do believe that he is a breath of fresh air - hopefully I am continued to be proved correct.

clive.joyce@midlands
.newsquest.co.uk
Below is the email of the new editor of the HT - I do believe that he is a breath of fresh air - hopefully I am continued to be proved correct. clive.joyce@midlands .newsquest.co.uk Ubique1
  • Score: 4

3:20pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Ubique1 says...

Below is the email of the new editor of the HT - I do believe that he is a breath of fresh air - hopefully I am continued to be proved correct.

clive.joyce@midlands
.newsquest.co.uk
Below is the email of the new editor of the HT - I do believe that he is a breath of fresh air - hopefully I am continued to be proved correct. clive.joyce@midlands .newsquest.co.uk Ubique1
  • Score: 4

10:30pm Sat 2 Aug 14

JJames70 says...

Ask him who agreed the PFI contract for White cross Academy at a cost of £73.7 MILLION over thirty years? After which time a private corporation will own it for the next 95 years.
Ask him who agreed the PFI contract for White cross Academy at a cost of £73.7 MILLION over thirty years? After which time a private corporation will own it for the next 95 years. JJames70
  • Score: 12

3:56pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Duane Stringer says...

JJames70 wrote:
Ask him who agreed the PFI contract for White cross Academy at a cost of £73.7 MILLION over thirty years? After which time a private corporation will own it for the next 95 years.
sssshhhhhhh!!
[quote][p][bold]JJames70[/bold] wrote: Ask him who agreed the PFI contract for White cross Academy at a cost of £73.7 MILLION over thirty years? After which time a private corporation will own it for the next 95 years.[/p][/quote]sssshhhhhhh!! Duane Stringer
  • Score: 10

10:04pm Sun 3 Aug 14

outlaw2 says...

Openness, clarity, public access - all these things are required if people or newspapers are to have faith in organisations.
Secret or semi secret bodies such as Hoople don't encourage people to view them positively.
Change or die.
Openness, clarity, public access - all these things are required if people or newspapers are to have faith in organisations. Secret or semi secret bodies such as Hoople don't encourage people to view them positively. Change or die. outlaw2
  • Score: 9

11:36pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Gnomie says...

Reality check for Herefordshire Council and its leader - the Hereford Times is not there to slavishly support you and treat every one of your vacuous pronouncements as holy writ. It is there to report the facts without fear or favour; and it seems to be doing a rather good job of it if your over-reaction is anything to go by. As things stand we're saddled with a run-down county with potholed roads, grass verges that are seldom mowed, gutters clogged with weeds and an overall air of dilapidation. The only solution the county council appears to be capable of coming up with is to grant as many planning applications as it can in the hope that Section 106 money from the developers will save the day. As a consequence Ross-on-Wye is being turned into a gigantic soul-less housing estate and even tiny Lea just four miles up the road faces the prospect of 119 new dwellings being constructed; never mind its serious flooding problems and its collapsing sewers. Is this really the best the county council can do?
Reality check for Herefordshire Council and its leader - the Hereford Times is not there to slavishly support you and treat every one of your vacuous pronouncements as holy writ. It is there to report the facts without fear or favour; and it seems to be doing a rather good job of it if your over-reaction is anything to go by. As things stand we're saddled with a run-down county with potholed roads, grass verges that are seldom mowed, gutters clogged with weeds and an overall air of dilapidation. The only solution the county council appears to be capable of coming up with is to grant as many planning applications as it can in the hope that Section 106 money from the developers will save the day. As a consequence Ross-on-Wye is being turned into a gigantic soul-less housing estate and even tiny Lea just four miles up the road faces the prospect of 119 new dwellings being constructed; never mind its serious flooding problems and its collapsing sewers. Is this really the best the county council can do? Gnomie
  • Score: 9

9:26am Mon 4 Aug 14

JohnBoym458 says...

As a Herefordian born & bred, a 25yr veteran of the British Army, and a council tax payer ( although a non-resident ), it is with great alarm that i read so many negative posts referring to the current Hereford council. I am sure they are all warranted. The question i keep asking myself is "How long will it take to get our beloved city back into some sort of order after this lot have been voted out" and also it begs the question of IF they are voted out????? MP,s + Councillors = Liars & Thieves....Thankfull
y we have the HT giving the good people of Hereford the facts!! May it stay that way always!!!!
As a Herefordian born & bred, a 25yr veteran of the British Army, and a council tax payer ( although a non-resident ), it is with great alarm that i read so many negative posts referring to the current Hereford council. I am sure they are all warranted. The question i keep asking myself is "How long will it take to get our beloved city back into some sort of order after this lot have been voted out" and also it begs the question of IF they are voted out????? MP,s + Councillors = Liars & Thieves....Thankfull y we have the HT giving the good people of Hereford the facts!! May it stay that way always!!!! JohnBoym458
  • Score: 9

9:51am Mon 4 Aug 14

mizza21 says...

Well done HT. Take this as a sign you are getting the coverage of the council right. Bill Tanner. Keep up the good work.

Nice to see some of the old posters on here too.
Well done HT. Take this as a sign you are getting the coverage of the council right. Bill Tanner. Keep up the good work. Nice to see some of the old posters on here too. mizza21
  • Score: 14

10:57am Mon 4 Aug 14

bobby47 says...

Hello Tony. You're reading these threads aren't you. Course you are you young scamp. You'd be a fool not to. Why wouldn't you! If I'd come up with this little cutie and suggested that the reporting staff at Hereford Times were being unkind to Hoople I'd be having a read as well. In fact, I'd be racing to my laptop on the hour to see if someone said, 'I love Hoople and ill fight any man who says otherwise'.
Course, it ain't going to happen is it and deep down you pretty much know this. Your request for the HT to be kind to Hoople is rather like saying, 'The Syphilis ain't such a terrible disease'. Having watched you and Pat at the Kindle Centre stumbling from one steaming stinking cow pat to another, I'm not in the least bit surprised you've come up with this latest slither of wisdom which, once again has backfired and put you in an unenviable position.
From hereon, if you wake from your slumber and shout, 'hallelujah, Lord be praised, I've another good idea', take it from me it ain't one. Whatsmore,you should banish it from your mind, get back to sleep and conclude, 'my good ideas ain't as good as I think they are and tomorrow morning I'll pledge myself to say no more about anything at all'.
Truthfully Tony, the Hereford Times only ever presented the public with the facts and its we the public who've convinced ourselves that Hoople, Hereford Futures and the raft full of other arrangements are bad for us and there's little you can do to make us all think otherwise.
Hello Tony. You're reading these threads aren't you. Course you are you young scamp. You'd be a fool not to. Why wouldn't you! If I'd come up with this little cutie and suggested that the reporting staff at Hereford Times were being unkind to Hoople I'd be having a read as well. In fact, I'd be racing to my laptop on the hour to see if someone said, 'I love Hoople and ill fight any man who says otherwise'. Course, it ain't going to happen is it and deep down you pretty much know this. Your request for the HT to be kind to Hoople is rather like saying, 'The Syphilis ain't such a terrible disease'. Having watched you and Pat at the Kindle Centre stumbling from one steaming stinking cow pat to another, I'm not in the least bit surprised you've come up with this latest slither of wisdom which, once again has backfired and put you in an unenviable position. From hereon, if you wake from your slumber and shout, 'hallelujah, Lord be praised, I've another good idea', take it from me it ain't one. Whatsmore,you should banish it from your mind, get back to sleep and conclude, 'my good ideas ain't as good as I think they are and tomorrow morning I'll pledge myself to say no more about anything at all'. Truthfully Tony, the Hereford Times only ever presented the public with the facts and its we the public who've convinced ourselves that Hoople, Hereford Futures and the raft full of other arrangements are bad for us and there's little you can do to make us all think otherwise. bobby47
  • Score: 14

11:29am Mon 4 Aug 14

Herefordian07 says...

Hallelujah, Lord be praised that Bobby 47 is back with his incisive pearls of wisdom for Tony and the other cronies., they would be wise to heed them!
Hallelujah, Lord be praised that Bobby 47 is back with his incisive pearls of wisdom for Tony and the other cronies., they would be wise to heed them! Herefordian07
  • Score: 5

12:06pm Mon 4 Aug 14

bobby47 says...

Herefordian07, hello old friend. And I'll tell you something else, not that it's worth me ever bothering to write it, if ever this Council Cabinet creep up my drive in the dead of night, climb up my bloody drainpipe, tap on my window and say, 'we've kidnapped Bill Tanner. Give us a billion quid if you want him back', I'm going to stop my intercourse with my wife of forty years and I'm going out of the window, onto the windowsill and ill happily negotiate with these purveyors of bad and rotten news.
I'll tell them, 'hand him back and I'll pay whatever is required for him to keep telling me what you lot are doing with my bloody money. And I'll pay the billion quid. Even if it means I have to quit ale, take on a dozen jobs and prostitute my back passage in order to come up with the funds.
Furthermore, if Bill ever reads this pile of complete codswallop and he finds himself locked up, shackled from his ankles and hung upside down In some darkened cellar at Brockington House, he can be sure and certain of one thing. 'Its bloody illegal'. It is! The last time I glanced at the Statutes it was and as far as I'm concerned i'll not stop until I've found him, bathed his injuries from the shackles that have torn the flesh around his ankles and placed him back behind his desk tasked him with one single thing!!! To tell us what the bloody hell is going on.
And finally, if anyone comes on here and presses the button that sends me hurtling downwards, they're cleverer than I thought they were, they're intolerant to a fool and clearly someone who clearly doesn't care that Bill has been kidnapped and hung upside down simply because he did his job and reported the facts to the people of Hereford.
There! I've said it and anyone who disagrees with me takes a different view to mine.
Herefordian07, hello old friend. And I'll tell you something else, not that it's worth me ever bothering to write it, if ever this Council Cabinet creep up my drive in the dead of night, climb up my bloody drainpipe, tap on my window and say, 'we've kidnapped Bill Tanner. Give us a billion quid if you want him back', I'm going to stop my intercourse with my wife of forty years and I'm going out of the window, onto the windowsill and ill happily negotiate with these purveyors of bad and rotten news. I'll tell them, 'hand him back and I'll pay whatever is required for him to keep telling me what you lot are doing with my bloody money. And I'll pay the billion quid. Even if it means I have to quit ale, take on a dozen jobs and prostitute my back passage in order to come up with the funds. Furthermore, if Bill ever reads this pile of complete codswallop and he finds himself locked up, shackled from his ankles and hung upside down In some darkened cellar at Brockington House, he can be sure and certain of one thing. 'Its bloody illegal'. It is! The last time I glanced at the Statutes it was and as far as I'm concerned i'll not stop until I've found him, bathed his injuries from the shackles that have torn the flesh around his ankles and placed him back behind his desk tasked him with one single thing!!! To tell us what the bloody hell is going on. And finally, if anyone comes on here and presses the button that sends me hurtling downwards, they're cleverer than I thought they were, they're intolerant to a fool and clearly someone who clearly doesn't care that Bill has been kidnapped and hung upside down simply because he did his job and reported the facts to the people of Hereford. There! I've said it and anyone who disagrees with me takes a different view to mine. bobby47
  • Score: 10

1:07pm Mon 4 Aug 14

littlewhitebull says...

bobby47 wrote:
Herefordian07, hello old friend. And I'll tell you something else, not that it's worth me ever bothering to write it, if ever this Council Cabinet creep up my drive in the dead of night, climb up my bloody drainpipe, tap on my window and say, 'we've kidnapped Bill Tanner. Give us a billion quid if you want him back', I'm going to stop my intercourse with my wife of forty years and I'm going out of the window, onto the windowsill and ill happily negotiate with these purveyors of bad and rotten news.
I'll tell them, 'hand him back and I'll pay whatever is required for him to keep telling me what you lot are doing with my bloody money. And I'll pay the billion quid. Even if it means I have to quit ale, take on a dozen jobs and prostitute my back passage in order to come up with the funds.
Furthermore, if Bill ever reads this pile of complete codswallop and he finds himself locked up, shackled from his ankles and hung upside down In some darkened cellar at Brockington House, he can be sure and certain of one thing. 'Its bloody illegal'. It is! The last time I glanced at the Statutes it was and as far as I'm concerned i'll not stop until I've found him, bathed his injuries from the shackles that have torn the flesh around his ankles and placed him back behind his desk tasked him with one single thing!!! To tell us what the bloody hell is going on.
And finally, if anyone comes on here and presses the button that sends me hurtling downwards, they're cleverer than I thought they were, they're intolerant to a fool and clearly someone who clearly doesn't care that Bill has been kidnapped and hung upside down simply because he did his job and reported the facts to the people of Hereford.
There! I've said it and anyone who disagrees with me takes a different view to mine.
Glad that you are back at last, Bobby - and dippyhippy.
Keep up the good work.
How's the maggot drowning going, old mate?
[quote][p][bold]bobby47[/bold] wrote: Herefordian07, hello old friend. And I'll tell you something else, not that it's worth me ever bothering to write it, if ever this Council Cabinet creep up my drive in the dead of night, climb up my bloody drainpipe, tap on my window and say, 'we've kidnapped Bill Tanner. Give us a billion quid if you want him back', I'm going to stop my intercourse with my wife of forty years and I'm going out of the window, onto the windowsill and ill happily negotiate with these purveyors of bad and rotten news. I'll tell them, 'hand him back and I'll pay whatever is required for him to keep telling me what you lot are doing with my bloody money. And I'll pay the billion quid. Even if it means I have to quit ale, take on a dozen jobs and prostitute my back passage in order to come up with the funds. Furthermore, if Bill ever reads this pile of complete codswallop and he finds himself locked up, shackled from his ankles and hung upside down In some darkened cellar at Brockington House, he can be sure and certain of one thing. 'Its bloody illegal'. It is! The last time I glanced at the Statutes it was and as far as I'm concerned i'll not stop until I've found him, bathed his injuries from the shackles that have torn the flesh around his ankles and placed him back behind his desk tasked him with one single thing!!! To tell us what the bloody hell is going on. And finally, if anyone comes on here and presses the button that sends me hurtling downwards, they're cleverer than I thought they were, they're intolerant to a fool and clearly someone who clearly doesn't care that Bill has been kidnapped and hung upside down simply because he did his job and reported the facts to the people of Hereford. There! I've said it and anyone who disagrees with me takes a different view to mine.[/p][/quote]Glad that you are back at last, Bobby - and dippyhippy. Keep up the good work. How's the maggot drowning going, old mate? littlewhitebull
  • Score: 11

10:11pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Dambuster! says...

Tony Johnson and President Putin have much in common. Control the press and feed the people what you want them to hear. Well, comrade Tony, beware because soon you will be removed from your seat of power.
Tony Johnson and President Putin have much in common. Control the press and feed the people what you want them to hear. Well, comrade Tony, beware because soon you will be removed from your seat of power. Dambuster!
  • Score: 3

10:56pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Johnny Harrington says...

If I am not mistaken Cllr Philip Price was a director of Hoople until recently? I don't think he or any of the remaining Cllrs on the board (including Roger Philips) should be making any public comments about this spectacularly failing venture, let alone expect to swallow the line Hoople has saved us 'significant' but undisclosed and unverified sums of money. This is beyond farce.
We will judge these Cllrs own competence separately and May 2015 will be their reckoning.
If I am not mistaken Cllr Philip Price was a director of Hoople until recently? I don't think he or any of the remaining Cllrs on the board (including Roger Philips) should be making any public comments about this spectacularly failing venture, let alone expect to swallow the line Hoople has saved us 'significant' but undisclosed and unverified sums of money. This is beyond farce. We will judge these Cllrs own competence separately and May 2015 will be their reckoning. Johnny Harrington
  • Score: 12

11:45am Wed 6 Aug 14

WYSIATI says...

Had a bit of time recently in Wales and in France. Both spend a great deal more money on public services and public spaces and it's good.

There is no doubt the council has a near impossible task - severe spending cuts in the face of increasing demand for key services for vulnerable children and adults. The politicians are not good and don't naturally deal with anything longer term than the next elections and there are surely some officers who need to buck up - but that's no different to any other organisation I've ever come across. Not sure that the brightest and best would want to be councillors or officers when all they see is the grief they get.

It would be a miracle to deal with the cuts without leaving blood on the carpet and disappointed and angry people around the place. Fact is that most of the services that are provided are far better than in much of the world and most of the time most things work well.

I think it's the British disease to think that we can do well if we keep cutting away - and also the press think they have a political role to play. Report the news, seek out the bad and shine a light where it's needed but objectivity is a sign of strength not weakness.
Had a bit of time recently in Wales and in France. Both spend a great deal more money on public services and public spaces and it's good. There is no doubt the council has a near impossible task - severe spending cuts in the face of increasing demand for key services for vulnerable children and adults. The politicians are not good and don't naturally deal with anything longer term than the next elections and there are surely some officers who need to buck up - but that's no different to any other organisation I've ever come across. Not sure that the brightest and best would want to be councillors or officers when all they see is the grief they get. It would be a miracle to deal with the cuts without leaving blood on the carpet and disappointed and angry people around the place. Fact is that most of the services that are provided are far better than in much of the world and most of the time most things work well. I think it's the British disease to think that we can do well if we keep cutting away - and also the press think they have a political role to play. Report the news, seek out the bad and shine a light where it's needed but objectivity is a sign of strength not weakness. WYSIATI
  • Score: 1

11:34am Thu 7 Aug 14

saidflo says...

Adding my name to the congratulations to the new editor. IMO the reporting of local news is pretty good now.

This Tony Johnson non-story is laughable. He gives me the impression he generally judges Herefordians are lacking in the brains dept. His attitude is misguided because we are all intelligent enough to see the true manipulations underway.

Most people reading this article would realise it is a targeted ploy to increase the acceptance of a poorly led and run council ahead of elections. If there were no elections he wouldn't bother turning his head in our direction to bother with us minions at all.

Sadly too, I know Tony and his cronies are simply not clever enough (pretty well proven now by what we have all seen and heard) to be able to organise these long term strategies for running a council and changing fundamental principles of caring for the needy in society.

I haven't seen it but I am sure there is a Conservative council cabinet guide or similar documentation he is carefully following. No doubt formulated and written by Pric Eickles and his department.

Bless you HT
Adding my name to the congratulations to the new editor. IMO the reporting of local news is pretty good now. This Tony Johnson non-story is laughable. He gives me the impression he generally judges Herefordians are lacking in the brains dept. His attitude is misguided because we are all intelligent enough to see the true manipulations underway. Most people reading this article would realise it is a targeted ploy to increase the acceptance of a poorly led and run council ahead of elections. If there were no elections he wouldn't bother turning his head in our direction to bother with us minions at all. Sadly too, I know Tony and his cronies are simply not clever enough (pretty well proven now by what we have all seen and heard) to be able to organise these long term strategies for running a council and changing fundamental principles of caring for the needy in society. I haven't seen it but I am sure there is a Conservative council cabinet guide or similar documentation he is carefully following. No doubt formulated and written by Pric Eickles and his department. Bless you HT saidflo
  • Score: 6

11:36am Thu 7 Aug 14

saidflo says...

ps lovely smiley photo Tony (hahaha)
ps lovely smiley photo Tony (hahaha) saidflo
  • Score: 4

2:26pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Herefordian07 says...

saidflo, I think you would smile like a crazed banshee if you were taking the wedge that our beloved Tony is extracting from our council treasury, mind you I think it is more of a grimace than a smile!
saidflo, I think you would smile like a crazed banshee if you were taking the wedge that our beloved Tony is extracting from our council treasury, mind you I think it is more of a grimace than a smile! Herefordian07
  • Score: 5

3:50pm Thu 7 Aug 14

saidflo says...

H07
I agree he has good reason to look smug, I saw some whopping "expense" payments he'd received listed on the council website, or could have been on a freedom of info list.

Hereford Futures was a similar company set up by council. Who remembers the lack of documentation when that company was closed down? Suspicions were rife that public money was fleeced.
So, how can we blindly support Hoople?
True it may be that Hoople was set up with the declared aim to save public money. No-one has proof positive either way - very convenient.

Tony, give us positive and unrefutable proof that Hoople has succeeded in saving real money and is Value For Money.
Politically claims can be made Hoople has saved money, safe in the knowledge the financial accountants can back up most claims made.
H07 I agree he has good reason to look smug, I saw some whopping "expense" payments he'd received listed on the council website, or could have been on a freedom of info list. Hereford Futures was a similar company set up by council. Who remembers the lack of documentation when that company was closed down? Suspicions were rife that public money was fleeced. So, how can we blindly support Hoople? True it may be that Hoople was set up with the declared aim to save public money. No-one has proof positive either way - very convenient. Tony, give us positive and unrefutable proof that Hoople has succeeded in saving real money and is Value For Money. Politically claims can be made Hoople has saved money, safe in the knowledge the financial accountants can back up most claims made. saidflo
  • Score: 3

11:04pm Thu 7 Aug 14

probono says...

Without the HT and BT we would not have learned many of the things we have about what goes on behind the scenes, how staff are depressed, being bullied, money wasted, some Councillors not pulling their wieght, excessive expense claims, large payouts and gagging clauses on short stay staff etc . And so it goes on.
Many people who would ordinarily not have known or even wanted to know how the Local Authority condusts itself and spends our taxes are now finding out. And they are not happy at all.
Without the HT and BT we would not have learned many of the things we have about what goes on behind the scenes, how staff are depressed, being bullied, money wasted, some Councillors not pulling their wieght, excessive expense claims, large payouts and gagging clauses on short stay staff etc . And so it goes on. Many people who would ordinarily not have known or even wanted to know how the Local Authority condusts itself and spends our taxes are now finding out. And they are not happy at all. probono
  • Score: 9

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