LiveMotion of no confidence in West Mercia police and crime commissioner is lost

First published in News Ledbury Reporter: Tom Edwards by , Political Reporter

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Summary

  • West Mercia police and crime commissioner Bill Longmore is today facing calls to resign after councillors published a ‘no confidence’ motion in him.
  • Worcestershire County Council’s Labour group wants the commissioner to quit, along with his deputy Barrie Sheldon.
  • Tom Edwards is reporting live from the meeting now.
  • Join the debate. Tweet using #BillWN or add a comment at the end of this story.

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1:05pm Thu 17 Jan 13

chapski75 says

I saw Bill Longmore on the BBC Midlands Today programme yesterday. It is now clear why he needs his deputy! He does not look up to the job. I wasn't expecting a well polished political party candidate groomed for the job, but I also wasn't expecting someone who carries himself with so little confidence and someone who appears to lack the drive necessary to make a difference. His Deputy's prime responsibility will be to keep nudging Mr Longmore during meetings to make sure he's still awake!

To his credit Barrie Sheldon does appear to be the sort of character who'll get things done and I'm sure he resents only getting £50k when his boss is on £75k.

Just shows up the lack of information that was available to allow an educated choice to be made between the candidates. Lessons need to be learnt for the next round of elections to ensure more media attention is given up front. It's certainly getting media attention now it's all gone wrong!

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1:05pm Thu 17 Jan 13

chapski75 says...

I saw Bill Longmore on the BBC Midlands Today programme yesterday. It is now clear why he needs his deputy! He does not look up to the job. I wasn't expecting a well polished political party candidate groomed for the job, but I also wasn't expecting someone who carries himself with so little confidence and someone who appears to lack the drive necessary to make a difference. His Deputy's prime responsibility will be to keep nudging Mr Longmore during meetings to make sure he's still awake!

To his credit Barrie Sheldon does appear to be the sort of character who'll get things done and I'm sure he resents only getting £50k when his boss is on £75k.

Just shows up the lack of information that was available to allow an educated choice to be made between the candidates. Lessons need to be learnt for the next round of elections to ensure more media attention is given up front. It's certainly getting media attention now it's all gone wrong!
I saw Bill Longmore on the BBC Midlands Today programme yesterday. It is now clear why he needs his deputy! He does not look up to the job. I wasn't expecting a well polished political party candidate groomed for the job, but I also wasn't expecting someone who carries himself with so little confidence and someone who appears to lack the drive necessary to make a difference. His Deputy's prime responsibility will be to keep nudging Mr Longmore during meetings to make sure he's still awake! To his credit Barrie Sheldon does appear to be the sort of character who'll get things done and I'm sure he resents only getting £50k when his boss is on £75k. Just shows up the lack of information that was available to allow an educated choice to be made between the candidates. Lessons need to be learnt for the next round of elections to ensure more media attention is given up front. It's certainly getting media attention now it's all gone wrong! chapski75
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1:34pm Thu 17 Jan 13

outside-edge says...

chapski75 wrote:
I saw Bill Longmore on the BBC Midlands Today programme yesterday. It is now clear why he needs his deputy! He does not look up to the job. I wasn't expecting a well polished political party candidate groomed for the job, but I also wasn't expecting someone who carries himself with so little confidence and someone who appears to lack the drive necessary to make a difference. His Deputy's prime responsibility will be to keep nudging Mr Longmore during meetings to make sure he's still awake! To his credit Barrie Sheldon does appear to be the sort of character who'll get things done and I'm sure he resents only getting £50k when his boss is on £75k. Just shows up the lack of information that was available to allow an educated choice to be made between the candidates. Lessons need to be learnt for the next round of elections to ensure more media attention is given up front. It's certainly getting media attention now it's all gone wrong!
What has happened in the last few weeks just shows how badly our political masters have let us down, and how they are letting the Police forces down.

PCC's were foisted upon us after the last General Election, to a Public that either didn't want and/or have any interest in voting for this position, reflected in the very low turn out.

The legislation needs to be re-considered as it is very obviously flawed. But there is a deafening silence from Messrs Cameron & Clegg even the opposition seems muted.

To me it proves that party politics and conniving should never be mixed up with keeping law & order.
[quote][p][bold]chapski75[/bold] wrote: I saw Bill Longmore on the BBC Midlands Today programme yesterday. It is now clear why he needs his deputy! He does not look up to the job. I wasn't expecting a well polished political party candidate groomed for the job, but I also wasn't expecting someone who carries himself with so little confidence and someone who appears to lack the drive necessary to make a difference. His Deputy's prime responsibility will be to keep nudging Mr Longmore during meetings to make sure he's still awake! To his credit Barrie Sheldon does appear to be the sort of character who'll get things done and I'm sure he resents only getting £50k when his boss is on £75k. Just shows up the lack of information that was available to allow an educated choice to be made between the candidates. Lessons need to be learnt for the next round of elections to ensure more media attention is given up front. It's certainly getting media attention now it's all gone wrong![/p][/quote]What has happened in the last few weeks just shows how badly our political masters have let us down, and how they are letting the Police forces down. PCC's were foisted upon us after the last General Election, to a Public that either didn't want and/or have any interest in voting for this position, reflected in the very low turn out. The legislation needs to be re-considered as it is very obviously flawed. But there is a deafening silence from Messrs Cameron & Clegg even the opposition seems muted. To me it proves that party politics and conniving should never be mixed up with keeping law & order. outside-edge
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2:10pm Thu 17 Jan 13

truth must out says...

Is the headline wrong..????
Is the headline wrong..???? truth must out
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2:14pm Thu 17 Jan 13

Maggie Would says...

I don't understand the headline either.
I don't understand the headline either. Maggie Would
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2:25pm Thu 17 Jan 13

More Tea Vicar says...

Maggie Would wrote:
I don't understand the headline either.
nor me.
[quote][p][bold]Maggie Would[/bold] wrote: I don't understand the headline either.[/p][/quote]nor me. More Tea Vicar
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2:29pm Thu 17 Jan 13

broadwas says...

The headline doesn't make any sense but, then again, neither does Bill's determination to carry on in spite of his cronyism. People voted, I suspect, for a principled, inependent man of integrity. He is coming across as wounded prey for his detractors and shows up the mess that has been foisted upon us.
The headline doesn't make any sense but, then again, neither does Bill's determination to carry on in spite of his cronyism. People voted, I suspect, for a principled, inependent man of integrity. He is coming across as wounded prey for his detractors and shows up the mess that has been foisted upon us. broadwas
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4:40pm Thu 17 Jan 13

hagleywhinger says...

I couldn't agree more with Chapski. Right on the money. I saw Bill Longmore too and tried to assess his personal attributes and qualities, if any. Most people can look at the politicians we see in the media and draw pretty accurate conclusions about whether they have the professional and personal qualities necessary to do the job for which they were elected. The conclusion in Bill's case is definitely not reassuring, despite his escape from the clutches of WCC. In 1958, Cassandra in the Daily Mirror said this about Macmillan's Foreign Secretary Selwyn Lloyd." We have a man in office who is incapable of carrying out his responsibilities. The idiot's lantern is getting too big for its ugly gleam." I would say that's an accurate reflection of the way the majority of people see Bill Longmore. Better stop digging an even deeper hole for yourself Bill, unless you have a death wish. Pack it in and go back to your retirement. Let's hope the ugly gleam of the idiot's lantern is not here for the next few years.
I couldn't agree more with Chapski. Right on the money. I saw Bill Longmore too and tried to assess his personal attributes and qualities, if any. Most people can look at the politicians we see in the media and draw pretty accurate conclusions about whether they have the professional and personal qualities necessary to do the job for which they were elected. The conclusion in Bill's case is definitely not reassuring, despite his escape from the clutches of WCC. In 1958, Cassandra in the Daily Mirror said this about Macmillan's Foreign Secretary Selwyn Lloyd." We have a man in office who is incapable of carrying out his responsibilities. The idiot's lantern is getting too big for its ugly gleam." I would say that's an accurate reflection of the way the majority of people see Bill Longmore. Better stop digging an even deeper hole for yourself Bill, unless you have a death wish. Pack it in and go back to your retirement. Let's hope the ugly gleam of the idiot's lantern is not here for the next few years. hagleywhinger
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4:43pm Thu 17 Jan 13

hagleywhinger says...

I couldn't agree more with Chapski. Right on the money. I saw Bill Longmore too and tried to assess his personal attributes and qualities, if any. Most people can look at the politicians we see in the media and draw pretty accurate conclusions about whether they have the professional and personal qualities necessary to do the job for which they were elected. The conclusion in Bill's case is definitely not reassuring, despite his escape from the clutches of WCC. In 1958, Cassandra in the Daily Mirror said this about Macmillan's Foreign Secretary Selwyn Lloyd." We have a man in office who is incapable of carrying out his responsibilities. The idiot's lantern is getting too big for its ugly gleam." I would say that's an accurate reflection of the way the majority of people see Bill Longmore. Better stop digging an even deeper hole for yourself Bill, unless you have a death wish. Pack it in and go back to your retirement. Let's hope the ugly gleam of the idiot's lantern is not here for the next few years.
I couldn't agree more with Chapski. Right on the money. I saw Bill Longmore too and tried to assess his personal attributes and qualities, if any. Most people can look at the politicians we see in the media and draw pretty accurate conclusions about whether they have the professional and personal qualities necessary to do the job for which they were elected. The conclusion in Bill's case is definitely not reassuring, despite his escape from the clutches of WCC. In 1958, Cassandra in the Daily Mirror said this about Macmillan's Foreign Secretary Selwyn Lloyd." We have a man in office who is incapable of carrying out his responsibilities. The idiot's lantern is getting too big for its ugly gleam." I would say that's an accurate reflection of the way the majority of people see Bill Longmore. Better stop digging an even deeper hole for yourself Bill, unless you have a death wish. Pack it in and go back to your retirement. Let's hope the ugly gleam of the idiot's lantern is not here for the next few years. hagleywhinger
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6:33pm Thu 17 Jan 13

pronstar says...

hagleywhinger wrote:
I couldn't agree more with Chapski. Right on the money. I saw Bill Longmore too and tried to assess his personal attributes and qualities, if any. Most people can look at the politicians we see in the media and draw pretty accurate conclusions about whether they have the professional and personal qualities necessary to do the job for which they were elected. The conclusion in Bill's case is definitely not reassuring, despite his escape from the clutches of WCC. In 1958, Cassandra in the Daily Mirror said this about Macmillan's Foreign Secretary Selwyn Lloyd." We have a man in office who is incapable of carrying out his responsibilities. The idiot's lantern is getting too big for its ugly gleam." I would say that's an accurate reflection of the way the majority of people see Bill Longmore. Better stop digging an even deeper hole for yourself Bill, unless you have a death wish. Pack it in and go back to your retirement. Let's hope the ugly gleam of the idiot's lantern is not here for the next few years.
Unlike most high profile public figures, I doubt whether Bill Longmore has had any training in dealing with the media; hence his misquote about running a sham election for the deputy's position.
[quote][p][bold]hagleywhinger[/bold] wrote: I couldn't agree more with Chapski. Right on the money. I saw Bill Longmore too and tried to assess his personal attributes and qualities, if any. Most people can look at the politicians we see in the media and draw pretty accurate conclusions about whether they have the professional and personal qualities necessary to do the job for which they were elected. The conclusion in Bill's case is definitely not reassuring, despite his escape from the clutches of WCC. In 1958, Cassandra in the Daily Mirror said this about Macmillan's Foreign Secretary Selwyn Lloyd." We have a man in office who is incapable of carrying out his responsibilities. The idiot's lantern is getting too big for its ugly gleam." I would say that's an accurate reflection of the way the majority of people see Bill Longmore. Better stop digging an even deeper hole for yourself Bill, unless you have a death wish. Pack it in and go back to your retirement. Let's hope the ugly gleam of the idiot's lantern is not here for the next few years.[/p][/quote]Unlike most high profile public figures, I doubt whether Bill Longmore has had any training in dealing with the media; hence his misquote about running a sham election for the deputy's position. pronstar
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7:23pm Thu 17 Jan 13

Lew Smoralz says...

From day one the Liebour party have attempted a character assassination, presumably out of frustration that their candidate was ignored by the electorate.

If there is any decency left in that party, then they should back off and give our Police Commissioner an opportunity to perform his job.

If he fails, then he becomes fair political game, but I think that this ganging-up and deliberate misrepresentation has not done the Liebours any good with the electorate.
From day one the Liebour party have attempted a character assassination, presumably out of frustration that their candidate was ignored by the electorate. If there is any decency left in that party, then they should back off and give our Police Commissioner an opportunity to perform his job. If he fails, then he becomes fair political game, but I think that this ganging-up and deliberate misrepresentation has not done the Liebours any good with the electorate. Lew Smoralz
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7:27pm Thu 17 Jan 13

Lew Smoralz says...

From day one the Liebour party have attempted a character assassination, presumably out of frustration that their candidate was ignored by the electorate.

If there is any decency left in that party, then they should back off and give our Police Commissioner an opportunity to perform his job.

If he fails, then he becomes fair political game, but I think that this ganging-up and deliberate misrepresentation has not done the Liebours any good with the electorate.
From day one the Liebour party have attempted a character assassination, presumably out of frustration that their candidate was ignored by the electorate. If there is any decency left in that party, then they should back off and give our Police Commissioner an opportunity to perform his job. If he fails, then he becomes fair political game, but I think that this ganging-up and deliberate misrepresentation has not done the Liebours any good with the electorate. Lew Smoralz
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10:10pm Thu 17 Jan 13

Samboy says...

They dubbed Boris Johnson a clown before and after his election in order to discredit him. He has proved to be successful even if he does not conform to the Politicians ideals. Give Longmore time and then judge him.
They dubbed Boris Johnson a clown before and after his election in order to discredit him. He has proved to be successful even if he does not conform to the Politicians ideals. Give Longmore time and then judge him. Samboy
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