Hereford United fail to secure ground safety certificate

The first game of the season is just four days away

The first game of the season is just four days away

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HEREFORD United have still failed to be granted a safety certificate for their Edgar Street ground - four days before the start of the season.

Club bosses met with Herefordshire Council this afternoon in a bid to get clearance to allow spectators to watch United's home matches.

Yesterday, Hereford United's new chairman Andy Lonsdale told the Hereford Times the club had done 'all they could' to satisfy criteria for a new safety certificate for the stadium.

And United have cancelled a home friendly against Herefordshire minnows Sinkums, scheduled for tomorrow night, due to 'unforeseen circumstances'.

Today, the council was not satisfied that all the safety requirements have been met, and has adjourned the meeting until Thursday, just 48 hours before the club is due to entertain St Neots Town at Edgar Street.

"Unfortunately, the council, police and fire service are not satisfied that all of the necessary statutory requirements have been met or that all of the relevant paperwork is in place," said Mike Pigrem, head of trading standards and licensing.

"However, we are working closely with the club's newly appointed safety consultants as well as club representatives, in order to try and resolve the outstanding issues."

  • The club postponed their pre-season photo-call with the local media which had been scheduled to take place at Edgar Street at 3pm today.  The photo-call was arranged last week but was cancelled two hours before it was due to take place. Chairman Andy Lonsdale said some of United's players were not at the club and they would not make it to the ground in time for a team photograph.

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5:00pm Tue 5 Aug 14

B the B says...

I don't understand what has happened since the last game of the season to now to make it unsafe. Seems odd to me.
I don't understand what has happened since the last game of the season to now to make it unsafe. Seems odd to me. B the B
  • Score: -2

5:10pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Cendrick Smemt says...

While nothing would surprise me after all the events at HUFC over the last few months, I do wonder whether the council is - to an extent - kicking them while they are down. If that's the case, it really doesn't help anyone.
While nothing would surprise me after all the events at HUFC over the last few months, I do wonder whether the council is - to an extent - kicking them while they are down. If that's the case, it really doesn't help anyone. Cendrick Smemt
  • Score: 1

5:12pm Tue 5 Aug 14

NOT CONVINCED says...

Well you see B the B, there are now new owners and advisors, and well, 1 of the advisors has seen Real Madrid train. I know its not relevant. You're right, if they are football men, there is no explanation.
Well you see B the B, there are now new owners and advisors, and well, 1 of the advisors has seen Real Madrid train. I know its not relevant. You're right, if they are football men, there is no explanation. NOT CONVINCED
  • Score: 8

5:17pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Marchuk says...

These guys are now the most successful comedy act in the history of Hereford, so, it's fair to say that in some ways they are very successful in providing entertainment in the city...
These guys are now the most successful comedy act in the history of Hereford, so, it's fair to say that in some ways they are very successful in providing entertainment in the city... Marchuk
  • Score: 15

5:33pm Tue 5 Aug 14

HUFC New Boy. says...

**** up after **** up. Just stick a Big Top on the place as it already resembles a bloody Circus.
**** up after **** up. Just stick a Big Top on the place as it already resembles a bloody Circus. HUFC New Boy.
  • Score: 9

6:08pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Milo2004 says...

B the B wrote:
I don't understand what has happened since the last game of the season to now to make it unsafe. Seems odd to me.
The old safety officer has left. He was increadabily good at his job. He knew the safety guide and how it had to be adhered to. Also all the staff that had the required training have now gone.
[quote][p][bold]B the B[/bold] wrote: I don't understand what has happened since the last game of the season to now to make it unsafe. Seems odd to me.[/p][/quote]The old safety officer has left. He was increadabily good at his job. He knew the safety guide and how it had to be adhered to. Also all the staff that had the required training have now gone. Milo2004
  • Score: 13

6:41pm Tue 5 Aug 14

littlewhitebull says...

I have no idea whether any physical changes have been made at Edgar Street since the last home game I watched against Alfreton. But the safety certificate encompasses a great deal more than just ‘physical’ safety at grounds. If you fancy a bit of light reading, the 232 page document called ‘The Green Guide to Safety at Sports Grounds’ (available online) makes for interesting reading. The guide covers the following topics:
“Calculating the safe capacity of a sports ground; Management – responsibility and planning for safety; Management – stewarding; Management – structures, installations and components; Circulation – general; Circulation – ingress; Circulation – vertical circulation; Circulation – concourses and vomitories; Circulation – egress and emergency evacuation; Barriers Spectator accommodation – seating; Spectator accommodation – standing; Spectator accommodation – temporary demountable structures; Fire safety; Communications; Electrical and mechanical services; Medical and first aid provision for spectators; Media provision; Alternative uses at sports grounds.”

Obviously, the previous safety officer was able to ensure the club met the provisions to satisfy the council, police, fire brigade, etc. Otherwise no safety certificate would have been granted.
At least I’ve learned a new word – vomitories! When I saw this word, I stupidly thought it designated places for those who had too much to drink at the Treacle Mine!
I have no idea whether any physical changes have been made at Edgar Street since the last home game I watched against Alfreton. But the safety certificate encompasses a great deal more than just ‘physical’ safety at grounds. If you fancy a bit of light reading, the 232 page document called ‘The Green Guide to Safety at Sports Grounds’ (available online) makes for interesting reading. The guide covers the following topics: “Calculating the safe capacity of a sports ground; Management – responsibility and planning for safety; Management – stewarding; Management – structures, installations and components; Circulation – general; Circulation – ingress; Circulation – vertical circulation; Circulation – concourses and vomitories; Circulation – egress and emergency evacuation; Barriers Spectator accommodation – seating; Spectator accommodation – standing; Spectator accommodation – temporary demountable structures; Fire safety; Communications; Electrical and mechanical services; Medical and first aid provision for spectators; Media provision; Alternative uses at sports grounds.” Obviously, the previous safety officer was able to ensure the club met the provisions to satisfy the council, police, fire brigade, etc. Otherwise no safety certificate would have been granted. At least I’ve learned a new word – vomitories! When I saw this word, I stupidly thought it designated places for those who had too much to drink at the Treacle Mine! littlewhitebull
  • Score: 18

8:31pm Tue 5 Aug 14

MJallday says...

Or... They are deliberately sticking to the rules, knowing full well they can't be attained, so the council will get the ground back?

Because that's never gone through their heads has it...
Or... They are deliberately sticking to the rules, knowing full well they can't be attained, so the council will get the ground back? Because that's never gone through their heads has it... MJallday
  • Score: 5

10:10pm Tue 5 Aug 14

dodger3 says...

The new regime are clowns-they need to go away with their tails between their legs.
The new regime are clowns-they need to go away with their tails between their legs. dodger3
  • Score: 8

11:23pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Milo2004 says...

littlewhitebull wrote:
I have no idea whether any physical changes have been made at Edgar Street since the last home game I watched against Alfreton. But the safety certificate encompasses a great deal more than just ‘physical’ safety at grounds. If you fancy a bit of light reading, the 232 page document called ‘The Green Guide to Safety at Sports Grounds’ (available online) makes for interesting reading. The guide covers the following topics:
“Calculating the safe capacity of a sports ground; Management – responsibility and planning for safety; Management – stewarding; Management – structures, installations and components; Circulation – general; Circulation – ingress; Circulation – vertical circulation; Circulation – concourses and vomitories; Circulation – egress and emergency evacuation; Barriers Spectator accommodation – seating; Spectator accommodation – standing; Spectator accommodation – temporary demountable structures; Fire safety; Communications; Electrical and mechanical services; Medical and first aid provision for spectators; Media provision; Alternative uses at sports grounds.”

Obviously, the previous safety officer was able to ensure the club met the provisions to satisfy the council, police, fire brigade, etc. Otherwise no safety certificate would have been granted.
At least I’ve learned a new word – vomitories! When I saw this word, I stupidly thought it designated places for those who had too much to drink at the Treacle Mine!
You are so right. The previous safety officer would spend all summer ensuring all was in place. This is not something you can do in a couple of hours. You also have to know the green guide like the back of your hand. As I understand it there was no SO in place at the end of last week. So there is no chance of the work being done. It would tAke the average person a week to read and fully understand the green guide before you even started to put anything in place.
[quote][p][bold]littlewhitebull[/bold] wrote: I have no idea whether any physical changes have been made at Edgar Street since the last home game I watched against Alfreton. But the safety certificate encompasses a great deal more than just ‘physical’ safety at grounds. If you fancy a bit of light reading, the 232 page document called ‘The Green Guide to Safety at Sports Grounds’ (available online) makes for interesting reading. The guide covers the following topics: “Calculating the safe capacity of a sports ground; Management – responsibility and planning for safety; Management – stewarding; Management – structures, installations and components; Circulation – general; Circulation – ingress; Circulation – vertical circulation; Circulation – concourses and vomitories; Circulation – egress and emergency evacuation; Barriers Spectator accommodation – seating; Spectator accommodation – standing; Spectator accommodation – temporary demountable structures; Fire safety; Communications; Electrical and mechanical services; Medical and first aid provision for spectators; Media provision; Alternative uses at sports grounds.” Obviously, the previous safety officer was able to ensure the club met the provisions to satisfy the council, police, fire brigade, etc. Otherwise no safety certificate would have been granted. At least I’ve learned a new word – vomitories! When I saw this word, I stupidly thought it designated places for those who had too much to drink at the Treacle Mine![/p][/quote]You are so right. The previous safety officer would spend all summer ensuring all was in place. This is not something you can do in a couple of hours. You also have to know the green guide like the back of your hand. As I understand it there was no SO in place at the end of last week. So there is no chance of the work being done. It would tAke the average person a week to read and fully understand the green guide before you even started to put anything in place. Milo2004
  • Score: 8

9:06am Wed 6 Aug 14

littlewhitebull says...

Spot on, Milo2004.
Our last Safety Officer was superb.
Does anybody know the points highlighted by the authorities that caused the failure? It would be most interesting to know the exact problems that caused the council, police and fire brigade to refuse to grant the certificate.
Spot on, Milo2004. Our last Safety Officer was superb. Does anybody know the points highlighted by the authorities that caused the failure? It would be most interesting to know the exact problems that caused the council, police and fire brigade to refuse to grant the certificate. littlewhitebull
  • Score: 7

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